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Dear Hobbypianist,
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We're looking forward to your next submission!

Cheers, Peter 10:51, 19 January 2007 (EST)

P.S. Can we ask you to also take a look at and filling in the publisher information when submitting new files? Thanks!


Hello Hobbypianist. To answer on your questions:

1. You will probably have seen that everything on IMSLP is strictly in public domain. We want to keep it that way, because we would face some nasty problems if we didn't... But it's not always that easy for identifying a score. When a score is in public domain, is reviewed on Public Domain. So the fact that a score was freely available doesn't mean it's public domain. I would first try to identify the score (see IMSLP:Contributing scores for tips). Knowing the website where you got the score would of course help: we tend to trust websites that are providing public domain scores. (Not all websites on our link page do this!) If this still would not work, and you have really valuable scores, you can maybe contact Carolus, who has a great deal of experience on music publishing, or ask your question on the forum.

2. If the the website where you got the scores, is the original scanner, it's a good idea to make a reference to them. As a tribute to their scanning work.

3. It would be nice if you find some results, but if you really can't find anything more, you can provide as much details as available in the Publisher field.

You absolutely didn't bother me with questions! Have a nice time on IMSLP! Peter 09:05, 20 January 2007 (EST)

Strauss Tone Poems for 4 hands

Dear Hobbypianist, wow! Don Juan, Till, AND Zarathustra for 2 pianos... wonderful stuff! And on the same day that 4 hand versions of Liszt Tone Toems are raining down on us... what has come over everyone? I think I'll have some friends join me in a tone poem orgy some time soon. Happy Holidays, everyone!!  :)  :)  :) mhurshell, 06 April 2007

..well, that's your Easter present ;-)) Hobbypianist 09:26, 6 April 2007 (EDT)

Concerning submission of non-PD scores

Hi Hobbypianist. You recently submitted a non-PD score on Ab Irato, which was from Neue Liszt-Ausgabe. Beware that scores from Neue Liszt-Ausgabe are still in copyright worldwide and that submitting them here might result in lawsuits etc. --Funper 10:34, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

Hi Funper, thanks for your tip and for replacing it. I got the score from the web, it was from Music Library http://nlib.org.ua/, therefore I thought it was public domain....it's rather difficult to get information about scores which don't have any numbers or publisher information. Hobbypianist 10:54, 22 April 2007 (EDT)
It is OK. If you ever need help identifying a score, upload it and place a notice on the image page (e.g. please identify this edition. or something). But please feel free to contribute as much as you like on Liszt, weather the edition is know or not, in worst case it will be removed if it turns up to be non-PD. --Funper 11:43, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

Original Edition

Hi Hobbypianist, You look pretty interested in music, that's why I thought maybe you'd know. I'm trying to know what is the original edition of Strauss' Burlesque. Do you know how I could find what edition it is and maybe where I could find it? Thanks!

Hi Cesarcui, well, what I know is that the young Strauss came in contact with Eugen Spitzweg, the owner of Joseph Aibl publishing company (Munich), which was then his main publisher. J. Aibl was later on taken over by Universal Edition (Vienna). ...maybe J. Aibl published the Burleske first...actually I don't know it, I only suppose it :). You could ask Carolus, he is really experienced in music publishing or contact the Richard Strauss Institute. Hobbypianist 16:17, 3 May 2007 (EDT)
Thanks a lot Hobbypianist Cesarcui 17:58, 10 May 2007 (EDT)

Zarathustra

Nice one there! Can't wait to see your score up on the site. --Funper 18:39, 25 May 2007 (EDT)

Hi Funper, indeed the tone poems by R.Strauss are really wonderful, I like them too. He was a master in orchestration. There are still 2 Jensen scores I have to scan, but the next will be the Zarathustra (big one ...more than 200 pages) :) Hobbypianist

Heller Scores

Hi Hobbypianist! Thanks for taking care of the Heller scores! --Emeraldimp 10:56, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

you're welcome! Hobbypianist 04:05, 7 June 2007 (EDT)

Thanks!

Thanks for helping to fill out the Sinding Works list that I created. I looked around quite a while on the internet but still wasn't able to find the information for about 1/3 of the opus listings. But thanks to you & abra it looks like it is complete (dates & all) now. Just out of curiosity, did you find that information on his works on the web somewhere or did you already know it.--Mitch 06:18, 7 June 2007 (EDT)

Hi Mitch, no, I don't know all these informations ;)....some are from the book of P. Hollfelder (Handbuch der Klaviermusik), but you can also find a lot on this German classic Website [1]. Hobbypianist 06:33, 7 June 2007 (EDT)
Wow, what a great site. Since the only languages I know are English & Spanish, all that German presents a bit of a problem for me. However, it still seems pretty easy to navigate around and it looks like it has a pretty extensive collection of information on a great many composers. Thanks for the resource, it'll definetly be useful for me in the future.--Mitch 06:41, 7 June 2007 (EDT)
yes, thats true, there are not only many composers (known and less known) but also you can find a lot of information about the date of composition (Entstehungszeit), instrumentaion (Besetzung), key (Tonart) and sometimes the date of first publication (Erstdruck). Hobbypianist 06:53, 7 June 2007 (EDT)

Thanks

Thanks for your great submissions, including Saint-Saëns scores! I'm going to try and finish (hopefully this week) compiling and uploading the rest of at least his complete solo piano works. French music is my main area of focus, including getting Ravel's and Debussy's complete works (not just piano) uploaded so I'm glad there are other enthusiasts out there. Danke!Daphnis 21:15, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

Hi Daphnis, don't mention it. I have to thank you too, for the many de Severac and Saint-Saens scores for Piano solo you uploaded! I'm particularly interested in less known (late)romantic composers, it's fascinating for me to discover and to play new rare piano pieces. Of course, I also love the music of Saint-Saens (I myself only played some pieces from the Piano Album Op.72 so far, but I intend to learn some more :)..), his music is so melodious and sparkling, that's a pleasure for the ears. See you then. Hobbypianist 10:14, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

Gottschalk

Hey Hobbypianist, I added a few more Gottschalk scores that I had to all the ones that you'd posted. While doing so I noticed that you posted the piece "Forest Glade - Polka brillante" in the section "Pieces without Opus Number. At the same time, Op.25 in your list is listed as "Forest Glade Polka (Les Follets) - Polka brillante". I was just wandering if these are actually 2 seperate pieces or if the piece you posted is actually op.25. Thanks.Mitch 19:44, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Hi Mitch, thanks for the hint. I suppose he wrote only one piece called Forest Glade....that's my fault because first I collected all the information about his works with and without Opus I could find on websites and then I sorted all. Forest Glade is listed by Hyperion Records as Op.25, I think we can trust them. Nevertheless, Gottschalk's numbering is a bit confusing since some pieces are mentioned under different Opus numbers while other works seem to have been published by Nicolás Ruiz Espadero after Gottschalk's death. I'll look up in the Pazdirek encyclopedia, maybe one can find additional information. By the way, I've seen that Celebre Tarantelle seems to be the same piece as Grand Tarantelle...at least we posted the same files from LC ;). I'll correct these two things. see you. Hobbypianist 04:16, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Thoughts?

Hi Hobbypianist! I'm wondering if mention of copyright renewal dates on items first published before 1923 might be confusing or intimidating to potential IMSLP users from the USA. While such info would be extremely helpful for works first published 1923 and later, those published before are all public domain in the USA and free for the taking now - regardless of whether a renewal was filed or not. It's one of those things that - since I'm so used to dealing with copyright all the time - doesn't phase me in the least. I don't know if that's true for everyone, though. If they've read through the copyright info here, they should have a fairly good idea about what's free and what is not. Have you talked to any new users or had any questions from them about such an issue? What do you think? Regards, Carolus 19:28, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

Hi Carolus, you refer to the recently uploaded Moszkowski scores? When submitting files I always try to add as much useful information on the edition as possible. That's the only reason why I thought it would be necessary to mention also those copyright renewals. Just to my clearer understanding: works puplished before 1923 are PD in the USA without exception, but a copyright renewal of such a work can have an effect on the status outside the USA, cant it? Just an example: if it was first published in 1907 but got a renewal in 1945, its PD in USA, in Canada since 1995, but in Germany not until 2015, right?
No, I didn't talk to users about this issue nor had any questions. Why? ...did you get any complaints from users? I hope not.
I fully agree with you, copyright information should be clear, of course. I will omit this in further submissions. Regards :) Hobbypianist 05:58, 21 June 2007 (EDT)
I think there is some confusion regarding "copyright renewals" (there are other people who also asked me about this). "Copyright renewals" are not international. Most of the time on IMSLP what we mean by "copyright renewal" is really "U.S. copyright renewal", because most other countries do not have such a thing as "copyright renewal". This is the case with Canada; therefore it does not matter how much the copyright is "renewed", it will have the same copyright status in Canada :) There is absolutely no way to "renew" copyright in Canada; indeed, such a thing does not exist in Canada. I hope this makes things clearer :) --Feldmahler 06:17, 21 June 2007 (EDT)
By the way, for further clarification, even if other countries have a similar thing to the US "copyright renewal" (to be honest, I don't know of any country that has this), it does not automatically get renewed elsewhere if the copyright is renewed in the US. Copyright law is completely national, there is nothing international about it :) Even the "conventions" are merely suggestions; whether or not the signing country actually implements what is written in the convention into national law is up to the country itself. --Feldmahler 06:23, 21 June 2007 (EDT)
Hi Feldmahler. wow, that's really a copyright maze, thanks for the clarification :). Now I think its really better to leave out the remarks on those strange "copyright renewals". By the way, why are they assigned at all? (for works published before 1923 they would be useless if there's no country which has similar regulations.)
Shall I remove the corresponding comments from the workpages? Hobbypianist 06:36, 21 June 2007 (EDT)
I assume that it was because of some previous copyright law issues (the US copyright law must be one of the most patched copyright laws in the world) that there were renewals for pre-1923 works (I think the 1923 law came into effect only in the 70s). In any case, the renewals no longer matter, so it might be a good idea to remove it from the work pages just to not confuse people :) --Feldmahler 06:44, 21 June 2007 (EDT)
Hi again...I removed some of the recently added comments. Meanwhile I've uploaded many scores, I can't remember all the workpages where I could have added such a renewal, but as soon as I stumble over another one I will change it immediately :) Hobbypianist 07:25, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

supraphon

Hi! I'm not sure about the topic, but many supraphon works are already admitted on IMSLP (probably by Carolus), and on Public domain there's a section about Czech works. So I suppose they are ok!--Peter talk 13:37, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

Yes, I've already read this section, just wanted to be sure. Well, ok I'll upload them. Carolus can delete them in case they're not PD. Hobbypianist 13:47, 22 June 2007 (EDT)
Hmmmm no, I think it's better to wait and ask before. I dont want to bring IMSLP into trouble. There are some things concerning plate numbers I want to clarify first. Hobbypianist 14:24, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

Flott

Splendid with the Grieg stuff Flott=Splendid (as the norwegian "notetrolls" say)Abra 09:55, 26 June 2007 (EDT)

Don't mention it :) Hobbypianist 12:25, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

Granados piano works

Hobbypianist, how much of the Granados piano works are you going to post? Just what's in the Dover edition? I'm asking because I was going to "fill in the gaps" of Granados' and Albéniz's piano works depending on what was left. Daphnis 16:37, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

Hi Daphnis, I've uploaded the complete Dover book, that's all I have from Granados. So you can post the missing works. By the way, I've noticed that the famous 12 Spanish dances actually have Opus number 37 and not Op.5....but the two from the Dover edition have also Op.37, it's a confusion. Do you already have a reliable opus list? Then you could correct it. Well, I'm trying to create one sorted by opus numbers. Hobbypianist 06:04, 28 June 2007 (EDT)
What about Grove's work list? Did you take a look at it? BTW, is that Debussy song list helpful? It looks a bit cluttered but you get the idea I'm sure. Daphnis 08:16, 28 June 2007 (EDT)
yes, I think so ;-). I've just copied a worklist from W.A.Clark's book 'Granados - Poet of the Piano', it seems to be up-to-date. Hobbypianist 11:50, 28 June 2007 (EDT)

Tellefsen!

WOW.I can just find some few of them in Norway.!!! F A N T A S T I C Abra

Enjoy them! Hobbypianist 16:30, 28 June 2007 (EDT)

Pazdirek Encyclopedia

Hey Hobbypianist, I was just wandering what this encyclopedia that you made reference to is and how one can about getting one! It sure seems like it must be pretty comprehensive since you are always able to complete my composer works lists after all my resources have been exhausted. Thanks.--Mcroskell 06:00, 29 June 2007 (EDT)

Hi Mcroskell, the "Pazdirek" is a 15 volume (?...at least the library in my town has 15 volumes covering A-Z) encyclopedia edited by Franz Pazdirek ca.1904-1910, the German title is "Universal-Handbuch der Musikliteratur aller Zeiten und Völker" (Universal Handbook of Musical Literature). It seems that he tried to collect together every existing work at that time, so you will find in many cases rather comprehensive work lists of composers who died well before ~1900. Sometimes there is also an individual listing of the works with subtitles, the key of chamber works, symphonies, concertos is often mentioned. In any case it's a terrific resource.
But I not only use the Pazdirek to create the lists or to fill the blanks, for "younger" composers it's necessary to have a look at Grove and MGG - Die Musik in Geschichte und Gegenwart (a kind of "German Grove" in 26 volumes). So the work lists are in most cases a mixture of infos from all the three and of course from websites. Good sites I know in addition to klassika.info and Wikipedia are [2], [3], [4].
Have you already looked for the Pazdirek in the library of your town? If there's a music department they might have it. If not and you are interested in a composer just tell me. I can make copies when I go to the library next time, fortunately it has all three encyclopedias. Regards. Hobbypianist 12:15, 29 June 2007 (EDT)
Hey Hobbypianist, I don't need you to copy any composers pages from Pazdirek, I was more just curious; I do sincerely appreciate the offer though. I imagine should I ever be overcome with the desire to check it out, that the local UMKC (University of Missouri-Kansas City) Conservatory music library probably has it. Also, thanks for the additional websites, I've already had the opportunity to put one of them to use.--Mcroskell 03:20, 30 June 2007 (EDT)

Thank you

Very nice with the Kjerulf-stuff !)Abra WOW

About Kjerulf

Yes i was thinking the same thing! and i think it is publication years i mentioned ,so maybe i need to be more precise !)Abra

Translating of titles

Nice with the originyears Perhaps you are able to translate the rest of the titles in the Svendsen list. I am sure you will do that better then me! Maybe keep the norwegian titles in a (parantes ) on the right side ??!Abra:)

Hi Abra, you've already translated the most important titles, I'll do the remaining :). The Norwegian titles are ok (Svendsen was a Norwegian), so we can just put the English ones in (). Hobbypianist 11:34, 3 July 2007 (EDT)

Thank you -Abra:)

Unbelievable!

Unbelievable! -some Svendsen scores as well !!!-Abra:)

Goldmark Violinsonate

Lieber Hobbypianist,

herzlichen Dank für das Upload der Goldmark-Violinsonate, deren Noten ich seit langem in Bibliotheken suche (ist in der Bayerischen Staatsbibliothek, aber nur als Microfiche-Kopie für 1,20 / Seite zu bekommen).

Beste Grüße, Chamberpianist 14:20, 6 July 2007 (EDT)

keine Ursache :) Ich hab halt mal alles hochgeladen, was ich momentan von Goldmark habe. Die Sonate hat leider keine gute Auflösung, aber es sollte gerade noch so ausreichend sein zum Drucken auf DIN A4. Viele Grüße Hobbypianist 15:00, 6 July 2007 (EDT)

Arensky

To Hobbypianist: under Arensky, Anton Stepanovich, 6 Caprices, Op.43 (Arensky, Anton Stepanovich), the page 5 in both Caprices Two and Three is identical. The one displayed is properly part of Caprice No. 2, whereas Caprice No. 3 is missing its proper page 5. Can you supply the correct page 5 for Caprice No. 3?

Indeed, it seems to be page 5 of the 2nd Caprice. ...I only checked the page numbers before uploading and didn't look at the score itself, so it has been overlooked. Unfortuately it's not my scan, I can only put a hint in the mics. field. Maybe someone else can upload a correct version. Hobbypianist 16:01, 31 August 2007 (EDT)

Welcome Back!

Hi there Hobbypianist! I'm so glad to see you back as you're one of the most valuable contributors to this community and have always been so friendly & helpful to me in our discussions. Once again, great to see you back at IMSLP again!Mcroskell 18:08, 31 August 2007 (EDT)

what shall I say... :-) Hobbypianist 10:42, 1 September 2007 (EDT)

Arensky, and Thalberg

Thanks for taking the trouble. I have recently annotated a new CD of Thalberg's operatic fantasies and am currently working on another, to be released later this year. I'll let you know when they are available. No, I am not the pianist, only the researcher [I've been researching Thalberg since the mid 1960s]. Best wishes...

Well, there's already a lot of Thalberg here on IMSLP. It's interesting virtuoso music but a bit too difficult for me to play. I know some works from a CD by the Label Marco Polo which released some volumes of Thalberg pieces some years ago. Hobbypianist 10:42, 1 September 2007 (EDT)

Gottschalk: Second Banjo

Hallo !
I have seen that you recently added a few more piano pieces by Gottschalk: thank you very much, all the more so as these pieces are quite rare!
I am very interested in one of Gottschalk's solo piano pieces: it is called "Deuxième Banjo" (or "Second Banjo" if you prefer) RO24 (Op 30 or Op 82 D.16: the opus numbers are always a little bit unclear with Gottschalk...).
It would be really great if you could find it.
Tschüss!
Jbd 4 September 2007
Hi Jbd, I've uploaded all the Gottschalk pieces I currently have. There's an old edition of Op.82 published by O.Ditson, so I'm sure it's circulating somewhere in the net...as soon as I get it I will upload it on IMSLP. You could also post a score request in the forum. Regards, Hobbypianist 13:57, 4 September 2007 (EDT)

Some very interesting contributions

and I mean that in the complimentary sense (I know it's used in others also). I enjoyed looking over the reduction of Brüll's symphony and Heller's works (if I haven't already said- I forget- I have some on CD - op. 143 and a set of etudes, and two sets of works acquired from a booksale in score but - of course- not the same ones - two adjacent to the set on the disc, rather. Also have been putting together the worklist for Wikipedia, and good to get the key of op. 143 right. Hrm. Is the Kiel violin sonata op. 16 the one Newman quotes from? I hadn't otherwise seen head or tail of that before- looking forward to downloading that when I get back! Borrowed Newman's Sonata Since Beethoven several times from two different libraries, has influenced me very much ;). One of these days will buy a used copy of that book. Thanks again for your efforts. Eric 13:55, 26 September 2007 (EDT)

thanks for your comment ;-)...you also made nice contributions to composer pages in Wiki. Please feel free to correct / fill the blanks in the composition lists, for some composers it's rather difficult to obtain a more or less complete list. Regarding the key of Heller's sonata: it's mentioned in the Grove. I have also some works by Heller, the Preludes Op.81, the Beethoven Variations and some others, quite melodius pieces, well, not the musical depth like e.g. Brahms but nevertheless lovely to listen. The Kiel Sonata is from Sibley's great collection, unfortunately I can't tell you more about it, I've not listend to it so far. Regards, Hobbypianist 15:00, 27 September 2007 (EDT)

Congratulations

with your copyright review status. It doesn't surprise me at all that you passed the test without a flaw - your submissions always contain very complete publication reports. This brings me to what I wanted to ask you for quite a time: you seem to have quite some amazing knowledge about publication dates - most of your date estimations I can't find on IMSLP's pages or the common resources. Are you a publishing insider, like Carolus, or do you have resources which you maybe would like to share with us?

Anyway, there's a page for Copyright Reviewers, but it's rather empty at the moment. Cheers Peter talk 16:13, 30 September 2007 (EDT)

Hi Peter, I'm not an insider like Carolus, he's undoubtedly the expert in copyright and pulication issues. Well, my method is the following: if there's no explicit date on the score I look up what estimation the library gives I got the score from. I think the librarians there are rather experienced people and the estimation is a first reference to begin with. Nevertheless I have always a look at the catalogue from Worldcat to see the other library entries. Generally I first look for the work itself (composer name and Opus or title) to see what editions there are at all, I type in the plate/edition numbers, and of course I compare the plate numbers with those mentioned in the corresponding table in section 'Historical Publication Info' to make sure the estimation date is reasonable and not too far aside. Though the large publishers like Peters, Bote & Bock, Breitkopf often don't mention dates, their plate numbers seem to be used in a rather chronologically manner! That's helpful. But of course, as the name says these are only 'estimations' of a date and one can't guarantee it 100%. When I can't find anything in worldcat/library databases I try to search with google, sometimes you get an estimation from antiquarian bookshops where the scores are being offered. Another helpful resource to compare/correct dates may be Grove or MGG. Dates of first publication together with the publisher's name are sometimes mentioned, especially for German composers in the MGG! I must admit that I didn't consequently continue this...but when I started creating composition lists I mentioned those infos, for instance with d'Albert. Some scattered infos on first publication you can also find on the German classic site Klassika. There are also several websites with rather complete composition lists and infos on first publication /publishers e.g. Godowsky, Reinecke, Marx. Summarized, I usually take the date given by the library as a first pointer AND try to verify/improve it as well as I can. If nothing is given I try to make an estimation with the aid of other plate numbers and the resources mentioned above (old engraving style -> should be an old edition or at least a reprint/reissue -> comparison with other plate numbers with known dates can give you an approximate value). Well, if that doesn't work either, or years/plate numbers don't correspond, I leave it open. Hmm, I don't think my method differs much from yours :), does it? Regards, Hobbypianist 05:45, 1 October 2007 (EDT)
Well, you gave me some ideas for some resources I didn't already know! However, my library here aren't very disciplined in keeping track of publication records. I also wanted to let you know that for the Supraphon publication of L'Art de Varier, Op.57 (Reicha, Anton), I added the {{FileNonPD-US}}-tag because the US didn't adopt the Berne convention. Regards, Peter talk 13:10, 1 October 2007 (EDT)
The situation in the US is actually slightly more complicated. If the work was published before 1978, and was public domain in the country of origin at the signing of the GATT/TRIPPS (in 1994), it is public domain in the US because of ineligibility for renewal (see Barenreiter's publication of Handel's Water Music for an example). Someone should probably put this on the public domain page :) --Feldmahler 14:06, 1 October 2007 (EDT)
Indeed - to be honest, the whole GATT story is discussed on the forums, but I don't get it completely. Maybe you or Carolus can write a nice paragraph about it on the public domain page :-) Thanks! --Peter talk 05:58, 5 October 2007 (EDT)

Borghi Luigi Gigi Giuseppe Beppe

Hi Hobby, You are right.Change the name. I found a confirmation here: http://opac.sbn.it/cgi-bin/IccuForm.pl?form=WebFrame


That is:

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Livello bibliografico: Monografia Tipo documento: Musica a stampa Autore: Borghi, Luigi<1745c*1806c> Titolo: Duetti per violino e viola / del signor Giuseppe|! Borghi Presentazione: parti! Pubblicazione: Venezia : Antonio Zatta e figli, 18.sec. fine! Descrizione fisica: 2 parti (13,13 p.) ; 32 cm Note Generali: I duetti sono 6: do magg.,si magg.,re magg.,sol magg.,la magg.,mi bem magg. Titolo uniforme: Duetti . 1786a . vl,vla Numeri: Numero d'opera - Op.5 Numero RISM - B 3731 Nomi: [Compositore] Borghi , Luigi<1745c*1806c> [Editore] Zatta, Antonio & figli Paese di pubblicazione: IT Localizzazioni: MI0344 - Biblioteca del Conservatorio di musica Giuseppe Verdi - Milano - MI - Noseda - Noseda.H.96.1-2.d VE0007 - Biblioteca comunale Cristoforo Sabbadino - Chioggia - VE


In Italy they use often nicknames in unformal event,letters and speechs.Usully Luigi is Gigi (specially in Venice)and often Gigi is for Giuseppe too. I think Borghi used to be call G. or Gi. Borghi, that was reverted by the printer in Giuseppe ..because Gigi is a quite redicolous....and Giuseppe sounds very well.From here the mistake... Thank you for all, and congratulations for your new position. Carmar

ok, the composer's name is correct now ;) Hobbypianist 10:34, 3 October 2007 (EDT)

Sammartini

Thank you for your notice about changes. Carmar


Kaba

Hallo :) ich wollte dir nur meinen Dank aussprechen. Gestern haben wir durch Zufall diese Seite entdeckt und ich war begeistert hier Noten eines Ahnen zu finden. Leider habe ich seine musikalischen Gene nicht geerbt, aber ich bin sicher, dass mein Vater ganz aus dem Häuschen sein wird, wenn ich ihm die Sammlung der Noten von Ignaz Brüll zeige. Da bin ich direkt verlockt doch nochmal den Versuch zu starten das Klavierspiel zu erlernen :D Liebe Grüße Kaba

Hallo, vielen Dank für deine Nachricht. Bist du tatsächlich ein Nachfahre von Ignaz Brüll? Woher kommst du wenn ich fragen darf, Österreich ;-) ? Leider gehört er wie auch viele andere Komponisten der Romantik und Spätromantik zu den vernachlässigten Musikern und ist wahrscheinlich nur wenigen bekannt. Im Musikladen findet man keine Noten, CD-Aufnahmen gibt es noch so gut wie keine. Die einzige die ich kenne ist die mit den 2 Klavierkonzerten erschienen bei Hyperion. Nachdem jemand hier Noten von der Michigan Library eingestellt hatte, hab ich mir diese Seite mal näher angeschaut und überrascht festgestellt, daß die dort unglaublich viele Werke von Brüll eingescannt haben. Die musste ich natürlich gleich hier hochladen :). Ich muß zugeben, daß ich selbst noch nichts von ihm gespielt habe. Nun, ich hoffe, daß ein Konzertpianist vielleicht mal eine CD mit Klavierwerken aufnimmt, jetzt wo viele seiner Werke hier frei zugänglich sind. Viele Grüße, Hobbypianist 06:34, 10 October 2007 (EDT)
Ich bin mir nicht hundertprozent sicher, dass ich wirklich ein direkter Nachfahr vom Ignaz bin, aber dass wir den selben Familienstamm haben, ist relativ sicher. Ich bin dabei in meiner Familie den Stammbaum mal etwas weiter zurück zu verfolgen, aber bin noch nicht bis zum Anfang des 19. Jhd. gelangt. Leider sind meine Großeltern recht früh gestorben, so dass ich da kaum Erzählungen von ihnen in Erinnerung habe. Wenn ich genaueres herausfinde, werde ich das hier nochmal notieren. Und falls ich es schaffe unseren Stammbaum mit dem von Ignz zu verbinden, schicke ich dir gern das Ergebnis. Aber habe Geduld mit mir, denn ich werde das nur nebenher und nicht vordringlich machen können.
Liebe Grüße, Kaba 11:50, 11 October 2007
Ok, ich bin gespannt. Viel Spaß und Erfolg bei der Ahnenforschung :) Hobbypianist 08:14, 11 October 2007 (EDT)

Hi

I noticed that you removed the reference to classical-sheet-music.eu. I thought it was OK since it is found on other pages, too, like here. Should it be removed from there, too, then? --DeSpair 03:43, 11 October 2007 (EDT)

Hi, that's not a critical issue :), I just thought it would be better to remove it because on their website one can read: "...You are not allowed to republish any materials of this site on other sites without the consent of CSM (Classical Sheet Music). Our scores are not in the Public Domain. They have been selected, edited/arranged or retouched by a professional musician...". it seems they claim copyright on the files in question though they are definitively public domain. It's just a measure to be on the safe side. But I will contact Funper who uploaded the mentioned Liszt pieces to hear his opinion. Regards, Hobbypianist 08:14, 11 October 2007 (EDT)

Huber scores among others

Briefly -thanks :) Eric 22:31, 18 October 2007 (EDT)

Gernsheim

Special note of thanks as I've been interested in seeing and hearing more of his music for some time now. Eric 22:45, 18 October 2007 (EDT)

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