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Welcome on IMSLP. I see you have uploaded your first file; File:IMSLP08505-Heller - Op.100 - Zweite Canzonetta.pdf.pdf, but the correct filename should be File:Heller - Op.100 - Zweite Canzonetta.pdf. So remove the IMSLP08505- and only one .pdf. --Peter talk 10:32, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

The other uploads are also not working. The filename need to be EXACTLY as they are on IMSLP(copy-paste), but no "Image:"; no "IMSLP-". Hold on, I will look into an easier way! --Peter talk 11:11, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Welcome to IMSLP, Caprotti. May I ask why you are replacing files we already have instead of adding new files? Moreover, the PDFs you have submitted fail to open completely when I attempt to inspect them, which suggests there may be a defect in their format. We are fine with having more than one scan of the same edition for any given work, so don't feel you must replace what we have. We do try to avoid having identical copies of the same file, that's all.

UPDATE: Peter has forwarded a copy of your earlier message to him, which clarified what is going on here. Under Canadian and US law, there is no copyright or trademark in a watermark or stamp placed by a publicly-funded library or archive upon a scan of a public domain work. However, we do understand your reasons for wishing to clean the files of these, as other countries might have different view on the protectability of such a scan. In light of the large number of files here that are scans done by you, it would probably be best if we set up a special project to replace the files rather than having you replace them one by one. Another issue that arises when you replace a particular file is that the copyright tagging automatically reverts to "unknown" when it is replaced. Perhaps the best thing you could do for now would be to go though the library and edit each page where a scan of yours is present to list yourself as the scanner. That way, after things are up a while, it might even be possible to write a script that would replace all the files in a single operation that were tagged Scanner=Caprotti. I changed the scanner credit on Rubinstein's "Piano Concerto No.3" page to show an example you. Does this seem like a good idea to you? Carolus, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

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your new version of Piano Sonata No.2, Op.20 (Rubinstein, Anton)

Your new version is of lower quality than the original one (lower resolution). Therefore, we're sorry to have cancelled your new version and reverted to the original. Please only upload new versions that have the same quality as the original one. --Peter talk 06:34, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

It seems strange that the new version has a lower resolution, because it starts exactly from the version already posted, leaving out only the watermarks of the Library. What do you mean exactly by resolution? I can of course rescan the original even to 600 dpi, is this that you mean?

Maybe it's not the resolution, but the compression. You can compare them by looking at the different versions File:Rubinstein sonata2.pdf. The old one is 2,2 MB, your new version 1,3 MB. The other files you uploaded, however, were successful and didn't have this problem!--Peter talk 10:32, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

Ravina additions

Hello Caprotti, The "O" in opus is always capitalized in title listings. Title format in English (the primary laguage of this site) is like this: "Title of the Piece for Piano, Op.123" Also, please note that using angular brackets is useless in the publisher field. For the F. Lucca titles (which you seem to be posting a fair number of), simply use the following format to save the copyright reviewers time: Milan: F. Lucca, n.d.(before 1891), plate 12345. Thanks, Carolus 17:48, 26 July 2008 (EDT)

Google scores

Dear Caprotti, You will have to remove all of the Google logos from these scores before posting them at IMSLP. It's very much like the CD Sheet Music scores. While the original scores and the scans are public domain, reproducing a trademark or corporate logo is not permissible. They placed their logo on every single page, which means you must open the file and remove it from every single page. Carolus 18:26, 5 August 2008 (EDT)

Files

Caprotti, the link to the Image page (on the IMSLP # ) is back so that uploading of new versions is again possible. Remember that files of lesser quality than the original will be removed. May I also draw your attention that you try to fill in as much information as possible in the Publisher field? For your information, here follows an automatic message. Thanks, Peter talk 09:02, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

Dear Caprotti,

Thank you for your submission. The upload was successful, but you did not provide enough source and publisher information. Can we kindly ask you to fill in as much information as possible? Correct identification of a score is absolutely needed to make sure a score is in public domain and does not violate copyright laws. Also, this identification reflects IMSLP's strive to quality and completeness.

Please pay attention to the following items:

  • Scanner:This field should include the name of the scanner, or the website where the file was obtained.
  • Editor: The person who edited the score. This is not always known, usually the editor is printed on top of the first page (e.g. edited by... ; in french revue par... or éditée par...; in German bearbeitet von...). This field can concern the original editor, and in case of a typesetted score, the typesetter.
  • Publisher Information: You can find publisher information usually on the bottom of the first pages of the score. The format for this field is as follows: "<Place>: <Publisher Company>, No. <Publisher's publication number>, <Date>. Plate <Plate number>."

More fields are described in the Score submission guide.

You will find a lot of information on the first pages of the score. If you have problems gaining information, more tips and help are provided at IMSLP:Contributing scores and Historical Publication Info. An example of a good submission is Frühlingsrauschen (Sinding, Christian)

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Symphonic Poem No.5, Prometheus, S.99 (Liszt, Franz)

pages 16-23 are missing here. regards, --Peter talk 10:44, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

I'll try to see if the Munchen site still has Prometheus available and check for the missing pages. I didn't upload Mazeppa for the same reason (missing pages). As for further specifications to the publisher infos, I'll add plate numbers to my new uploads. Those related to Breitkopf Liszt Series are not very useful, and I didn't edit those.

Oh, that is a pitty. Their scanning robot apparently flipped some pages then. (Btw have you seen it on their website, the robot's really amazing). For the Liszt-Stifung edition, we have a template (see here) if you would be interested. I already edited some of them. Plate numbers and dates are always useful and necessary, not because it looks good, but most importantly for determining the correct copyright status. --Peter talk 15:27, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

I checked yesterday the situation for the Liszt. The difficult-to-find Liszt edition page in the bavarian site has been completely changed and now contains only 4 scores. I guess they have realized that all the scores previously posted (I downloaded about 20 volumes of the so-called 'Carl-Alexander Ausgabe') had some minor or big problems and I hope they are fixing all the missing pages and other errors.

Yes I noticed that too, however some are still in the search index. Do you use a script for downloading the images? I use a downloadmanager, but manually for each page which is a pain. Peter talk 05:44, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

I use Flashget which should be a free software. It's very simple to use, with a download manager 'group' feature that allows to get automatically a range of jpgs giving strat and end numbers (you get the addresses only with Firefox, since Explorer doesn't give a picture address). Then I collect everything with Acrobat. Very easy and quick !

Stephen Heller uploads

Dear Caprotti,

the two files of Heller's Caprices (the Halevy Brillante Op. 38 and the Mendelssohn theme Op. 76) you uploaded are ostensibly the same as the ones that are already there, except with higher compression (= not necessarily good) and the LC logo (= double not good) and also, you've caused the CR team extra work because replacing files prevents them from being downloaded again until they have passed a review (= triple not good). Please bear in general, we do not permit scans with logos or trademarks without specific permissions. Please have a read of the contributors pages and your talk page above if you are in doubt! (E-mail sent to you as well, FYI) Regards, Philip Legge @ © talk 06:46, 25 October 2008 (EDT)

Or rather, I was going to send you an e-mail...
This user has not specified a valid e-mail address, or has chosen not to receive e-mail from other users.
Please respond. Regards, Philip Legge @ © talk 06:48, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
It's Caprotti's own logo since he is the original scanner of the scores. Therefore it is permissible! Hobbypianist 16:36, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
That may be so (and I did consider that the logo might be a book plate or ex libris stamp). It simply isn't evident prima facie that "LC" and "Caprotti" are one and the same, there's a lot of people or institutions that could be "LC". Regards, Philip Legge @ © talk

Vocal Scores

Thank you for your Verdi vocal score uploads! They are wonderful additions!
Now for the full scores...Snailey Yell at me 11:10, 19 November 2008 (EST)

Clementi

Hello Caprotti, Who is the editor is the Ricordi edition you posted, and when was it fist published? The editor in this case has realized all of the ornamention, which moves us into a different category than a simple urtext edition. We need the dates and editor info to determine the copyright status. Thanks, Carolus 18:31, 23 November 2008 (EST)


I have added the requested informations: The Sonatinas were edited by Ernesto Marciano in 1925 [as Sonatinas opp.37,38] The Ricordi plate number is 623

Schumann

Thanks so much for your Schumann submissions! In the future, please use the template SchumannComplete, as detailed on Robert Alexander Schumann - Complete Works Edition -- Snailey Yell at me Email me 17:54, 28 February 2009 (EST)

Louis Winkler

Thanks for these nice transcriptions. Do you have dates for Louis Winkler? I can't seem to find any.-- Snailey Yell at me Email me 18:16, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Hasse Nitteti Score

I love the fantastic Nitteti (Hasse) score you uploaded. However, it seems to be missing Act Two. Is it possible to upload that act as well? I would greatly appreciate it!

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