||Unidentified Publisher, n.d.(ca.1806?). Plate 429.
||Scanner identifies the publisher as Cherubini. Schott also might work for the plate no. PDF split of Cypressdome's "Complete Orchestral Parts" file (#291431) by Sallen112. The "Flute/(Piccolo)" part is one part in this version. In the third movement, the flute may have the option to switch to piccolo only if there is a triangle being played.
||Violin Concerto No.25
||Concerto Lettre E
||Viotti, Giovanni Battista
|Opus/Catalogue NumberOp./Cat. No.
||G.124 / W.25
|I-Catalogue NumberI-Cat. No.
- I. Andante - Allegro - Allegro vivace assai
- II. Andante sostenuto
- III. Allegretto
||Possibly Margaret Chinnery*
|Composer Time PeriodComp. Period
||Violin and Orchestra
- Solo - violin
- flute (also piccolo), 2 oboes, 2 clarinets (A), 2 bassoons
2 horns (A/D), 2 trumpets (C), timpani, triangle, strings
||Piano Concerto in A minor, W 1a.10
Corno = horn? but written in a treble clef? Trombe = trumpet? BDH lists it as trombones. Please correct as I've been under the impression that corno in treble clef during this era was trumpet.
- Your impression is incorrect. Horn parts were (and are) normally written using treble clef. The most common oddity one encounters in older horn parts is when they go into bass clef, where they used to be written an octave too low for the correct transposition. Thus, horns crooked in F during the era of this piece actually sound a fourth above the notation, instead of a fifth below (as when in treble clef). Trombe was the commonly-used Italian plural for "trumpets". Trombones did not become commonplace in orchestras until after Beethoven. Carolus 20:21, 7 August 2013 (EDT)
- Or maybe late in Beethoven's life (unless his use of them in the 9th symphony was considered very, very unusual at the time- perhaps it was - and I should imagine operatic/cantata/vocal and instrumental orchestras would need to be distinguished, also traditions in different countries... hrm. Hrm. Forsyth, while out of date, had something to say there which I should check, come to think of. ... Never mind. Sorry. ... :) - Schissel
*Re "Mrs. Chinnery", Margaret Chinnery, the possible dedicatee of this violin concerto and the person who it seems the 24th violin concerto was written for: there is a fairly new book, "Viotti and the Chinnerys: A Relationship Charted Through Letters" (Denise Yim, Ashgate, 2004) which even through Google Preview seems to give a fair amount of information about the music written by Viotti for the Chinnery family, and his association with them. - Schissel