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Talk:Variations on 'Là ci darem la mano', Op.2 (Chopin, Frédéric)

2007-05-04T03:35:49Z

Springeragh:

If this says "complete score", shouldn't the orchestral parts also be here? [[User:Springeragh|Springeragh]] 23:35, 3 May 2007 (EDT)

User talk:Peter

2007-04-27T19:43:48Z

Springeragh: Sonata for Piano Four-Hands in Bes K.358 (Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus)

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== Handel's Concerti ==

Hey there. I noticed there is some kind of problem with the last Handel concerti I am uploading. It seems that, although I go to the Handel page, under Composers, and I click on "add a file", it adds that file under '''Handel, George Frideric Handel''', instead of '''Handel, George Frideric'''. I don't know why this has happened. Any ideas on how to move the files from one composer to the other, without deleting all of them? Thanks for the help though :)

Ok, so I moved the files back to the original composer's page, and had the faux one marked with "articles for deletion". Oh, and one more thing; how do you do that "indented reply" thing to a previously posted comment? Thanks! [[User:Jujimufu|jujimufu]] 18:01, 1 January 2007 (EST)

== Brahms' variations ==

Hi Peter,

I noticed that the last page (no. 23) of the Brahms' "Variations on a theme bij Händel (opus 24)" is actually the first variation from "Variations on a theme by Paganini, Book I"... This variation, by the way, is missing where it is supposed to be.[[User:Abelard|abelard]], 18 January 2007 (EST)

Thanks for notifying me of the pdf error. I will delete the page. Can you tell me if the first paganini variation is missing or not?--Peter 05:58, 18 January 2007 (EST)

:Peter, The first Paganini variation is indeed missing. .[[User:Abelard|abelard]], 22 January 2007 (EST)
::fixed!--[[User:Peter|Peter]] 13:43, 22 January 2007 (EST)
:::great!--[[User:Abelard|Abelard]] 18:43, 23 January 2007 (CET)

== Plate number ==

Hallo Peter,

thanks for the tip. Indeed I was not sure whether I should fill in the plate number when there's no name of the publisher on the sheet.

Still I have some questions: I collected a lot of scores in the internet, from pages which are linked on this site and also from others which are a bit more difficult to find. And all offer/offered scores for free downloading. So I can expect that all of them are already considered as public domain, can't I? Or do I have to verify this again before uploading?

Shall I fill in the website where I got it from (provided that I still know it)?
Sometimes I've seen this on the pages here.

If there's only the plate number on the score, do I have to try to find out the publisher or can I just type then Unknown?

I hope I don't bother you with these questions ;-)
Bye, Björn

== IFLANG nesting ==

I finally managed to fix the bug... IFLANG should work correctly when nested :) --[[User:Feldmahler|Feldmahler]] 16:05, 21 January 2007 (EST)

== Watch out for Gershwin ==

Peter,

I noticed in your pending file that you will be doing Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue. While I'm sure it would be immensely popular, the work is still under copyright, and the Gershwin estate/Warner Bros more than vigorously defend the copyrights on this work. In fact, this is one of the primary works that caused the Sonny Bono act to be rushed through in the middle of the night to halt PD at 1923 (with just a year to spare). Just imagine if United no longer had to pay to use RiB for it's commercials.
:Copyright only extends life +50 in canada (where this site is hosted), putting gershwin's music just into the public domain, including the 2 piano version of rhapsody in blue ()which i believe is the one peter is planning to upload), but not any of the orchestrations as they were done by grofe, who didn't die till more recently.--[[User:Matthew|Matthew]] 11:31, 25 January 2007 (EST)

== Deuxième Récréation de Musique ==

Hi there Peter! Just a heads up... an editor of the WIMA left you a message [[Talk:Deuxième_Récréation_de_Musique_(Leclair,_Jean-Marie)|here]]. Keep me posted about what happens :) --[[User:Feldmahler|Feldmahler]] 11:30, 24 February 2007 (EST)

== IMSLP #02089 ==

Hi Peter! For some reason, #02089 on [[Polacca_brillante,_Op.72_(Weber,_Carl_Maria_von)]] does not want to open... I know you submitted this some time ago, but I was wondering if you have any idea why the file cannot be opened (maybe upload corruption?)... or if you still have the original file you uploaded, can you check if at least that opens? Thanks! --[[User:Feldmahler|Feldmahler]] 00:19, 4 March 2007 (EST)
:The file on my HD is intact, and the downloaded file causes a crash of Acrobat... I'll re-upload it.--[[User:Peter|Peter]] 04:57, 4 March 2007 (EST)

== Sysop ==

Hi Peter! I've added you as an admin. I think that IMSLP's expansion necessitates another admin, and you are already very familiar with how IMSLP works :)

Anyway, welcome to the admin group, and have a look at the [[IMSLP:Policy]] page that I just created :) --[[User:Feldmahler|Feldmahler]] 12:20, 4 March 2007 (EST)

::Thanks for your appreciation! --[[User:Peter|Peter]] 12:35, 4 March 2007 (EST)

== False Bach attributions ==

Hi Peter! I was thinking about this, and thought that it might be a good idea to submit duplicates of the files to Bach pages even if they were falsely attributed to Bach, just so that people don't wonder where the "missing" works are. Of course, you can use either the add file form or simply copy and paste the code. Just throwing the idea out there :) --[[User:Feldmahler|Feldmahler]] 15:54, 5 March 2007 (EST)

==PDF question==
Hi, I have a question for you since you make scans in pdf. When I save pdf files each page turn out to be over 1 mb, is there any setting to change to make the pages smaller in filesize? --[[User:Funper|Funper]] 08:32, 17 March 2007 (EDT)

Hi, I have another question. When saving pdf files, how do one change the dpi so that the quality and files size is balanced? (e.g. not to high dpi on a low quality score) --[[User:Funper|Funper]] 18:05, 17 March 2007 (EDT)

==[[Short Pieces for harmonium (Franck, César)|Regarding your question on Franck's short pieces for harmonium]]==
Hi Peter,
well it seems to be a kind of piano transcription of Franck's pieces. For instance No.I and No.X were originally writen for piano. The rest it's for the harmonium. However a close inspection of the score reveals that the harmonium registration was deleted and an even closer inspection reveals some fingering which led me to think that these are piano transcriptions.
All the pieces are from the organist excep No. VI and No. XIV which were not included in L'Organiste. However Franck wrote some pieces for the harmonium more than 20 years before composing the unfinished L'organiste. I pressume that this two pieces come from that set; I will check. I recall reading somewhere about the 'Prelude pour l'Ave Maria Stella' as being composed for the harmonium well before L'Organiste and included in a set of pieces for the harmonium.
Hope this serves; IMHO this should be renamed as they are for piano not for the harmonium. Cheers

NachoBA.
==Theodore Dubois==
Peter, I also exchange the order on Theodore Dubois, sorry again for that could you please fix it? I don't know how to do it. Cheers / nachoBA

==Soler's Sonatas==
Hi Peter, I do not have his permission, though in his site one can read that he is posting the stuff as "public domain"(See here http://www.chateaugris.com/Soler/whatsnew.htm ). I've pressumed that this is enough to upload the stuff to the IMSLP. Let me know if you believe that an express permission should be asked. Cheers / nachoBA
:Hehe... we are talking on three user talk pages at once ;) Anyway, I've also commented on [[User_talk:NachoBA#Chateaugris|NachoBA's user page]]. Basically, I believe we are in the clear, just that it might be a good idea to note this on the work pages to prevent trouble. --[[User:Feldmahler|Feldmahler]] 19:03, 1 April 2007 (EDT)

== Trois etudes ==

There is only the third! Where is the rest? --[[User:Funper|Funper]] 11:55, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
:I'm sure Peter would have posted them if he had them... or else it'd make no sense to post only one :) --[[User:Feldmahler|Feldmahler]] 12:22, 4 April 2007 (EDT)

== Hungarian Rhapsodies Copyright review? ==

Hungarian Rhapsodies are all PD. 1972+25=1997. --[[User:Funper|Funper]] 09:50, 9 April 2007 (EDT)
:Budapest is not in Germany.--[[User:Peter|Peter]] 10:08, 9 April 2007 (EDT)
::Neue Liszt-Ausgabe was also published in Germany. Isn't Hungary a member of Berne [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works]? --[[User:Funper|Funper]] 10:19, 9 April 2007 (EDT)
:::OK, I didn't follow the whole Berne thing, so I'm not into it... That's why I proposed it for review (a little overshooting maybe, but the LAST thing I want for IMSLP is legal problems, and this German 25y term is IMHO really on the edge). I'd rather have some files less on IMSLP than a lawsuit... Don't take it personal! --[[User:Peter|Peter]] 10:30, 9 April 2007 (EDT)
::::Less files on IMSLP, Less Liszt-files on IMSLP rather than a lawsuite?! I take it very personal..! No but on the other note, since Neue Liszt-Ausgabe was also indeed published in Germany, and since Berne rule and all that stuff apply there I do think that it is out of copyright. I am 99.95% sure that it is a "scientific" edition and hence PD in Canada, but ask Feldmahler, he is all into copyright laws. --[[User:Funper|Funper]] 10:40, 9 April 2007 (EDT)
:::::Ok, let us quit arguing and ask Carolus for a copyright review :) --[[User:Feldmahler|Feldmahler]] 11:09, 9 April 2007 (EDT)
:::Hi Peter and Funper, I've been doing some checking on the ''Neue Liszt Ausgabe.'' The series is a type of joint venture between Editio Musica Budapest and Baerenreiter. In light of the fact that all the editors of the first eight volumes are Hungarian, it would appear that the primary publisher is actually EMB, with Baerenreiter mainly acting as distributor for the West (back in the days when Hungary was still a Soviet satellite). Hungarian statutes would be the ones governing here, not the German law. The series has not been reprinted by any of the reprint houses here in the USA, most likely due to the fact that it only started to appear in 1970, well past the date of automatic renewal for copyrights in the US (1964). Absent a EU law which over-rides the Hungarian law, I think the weight of evidence places the entire series in the "still protected by copyright" category. I think we should refrain from posting at IMSLP. -- [[User:Carolus|Carolus]] 10 April 2007

== Some questions concerning Muzika and CDSM ==

Hi Peter, I have some Russian editions from scores (Medtner), some with M. <number>, others only with numbers on the bottom....I think they are from Muzika. As far as I know, scores of Muzika don't have copyright any more. So can I upload them without hesitation (even if the edition is from the early 80s) or are there still some exceptions/open questions? What about those editions with numbers only, I'm not 100% sure whether they are really from Muzika. Is there a database of Muzika Edition/Plate Numbers anywhere in the Internet apart from the Julliard Site?

Another question refers to scores from "CD Sheet Music" and similar: can scores from those companies ''always'' be uploaded? Of course, its necessary to remove the Logo from each page before, but can I be sure that the scanned music they sell is always Public Domain? (...maybe they make an arrangement with publishers and scan also music which is still under copyright?). What I noticed is that there's no publisher information on the pages any more...no number, nothing.
Well, I think, I'll remove not only the Logo, but also the title and all headings...only will leave the page numbers :) [[User:Hobbypianist|Hobbypianist]] 09:44, 26 April 2007 (EDT)

:I'm moving this discussion to the forums because more people can look at it :) Here's [http://www.imslpforums.org/viewtopic.php?t=209 the thread]. --[[User:Feldmahler|Feldmahler]] 10:59, 26 April 2007 (EDT)

== [[Sonata for Piano Four-Hands in Bes K.358 (Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus)]] ==

In German, "'''B'''" is our B♭; "'''H'''" is our B. Therefore, having a German "'''Bes'''" is rather redundant (and almost suggesting a B♭♭). With your permission, I would like to move this article to [[Sonata for Piano Four-Hands in B K.358 (Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus)]]. [[User:Springeragh|Springeragh]] 15:43, 27 April 2007 (EDT)

User:Springeragh

2007-04-27T19:38:52Z

Springeragh:

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Talk:Main Page/Archive2

2007-03-16T17:30:13Z

Springeragh: An error in spelling

<div style="width:50%; background-color:rgb(220,220,222); border:solid gray 2px ">'''For an archive of discussions on this page, see [[Talk:Main Page/archive]].'''</div>

==Searching IMSLP?==
I have noticed that you have added a new search bar above the other. Personally I don't remember the IMSLP#:s and I don't understand why this new search bar is placed above the old and "slightly" more useful one. Besides, It would be a nice addition if composer names would appear in search results. --[[User:Funper|Funper]] 21:07, 1 March 2007 (EST)

== Default language ==
I think that the default language when entering the site should allways be english since this kind of features are very optional. --[[User:Funper|Funper]] 20:19, 24 February 2007 (EST)
:Well... the original idea is that there are enough sites out there (Google, Yahoo, MSN and all the big ones) that do this kind of language autodetection, so that most people would have set their browser language to what they wanted anyway; and so language autodetection would be useful for IMSLP too... of course, you can always change the language in "my preferences" after logging in if you don't like the language autodetection :) --[[User:Feldmahler|Feldmahler]] 23:49, 24 February 2007 (EST)
::Well the difference between the "big ones" is that they have a proper language translation, and mostly; they have ALL their pages translated. "MSN and all the big ones" have hired professionals to translate their pages, it's not just some average Joe writing his perception of what should be written. So I suggest that we use English as default language on this site, maybe until IMSLP.org is mentioned as internationally renowned in "The New York Times" (which I one day hope it will be), OR until we have proper translation on the WHOLE site :) --[[User:Funper|Funper]] 20:15, 1 March 2007 (EST)
:::Why do you think the translation is just average? We have worked hard for these translations, and won't let them be removed one day.
:::I don't see the point of a professional translation of an open-source site that everyone can edit. Translation errors will be removed as international users are attracted to the site, and the only way of doing that is by presenting other languages. Wikipedia is the proof. Just trust in the community! --[[User:Peter|Peter]] 11:52, 2 March 2007 (EST)
::::Let's all play nice now hehe :) The problem with only wanting people to see a completely translated IMSLP site is that no one would be doing the translations and translation checking in the first place since no one knows about it. That said, there are some translations of IMSLP that are already pretty complete as is :) This is why I've added different language translations to the code of the IMSLP site itself as soon as the translation project starts, so that more people can get involved and make it better :)

::::There is actually quite a large non-english population that visits IMSLP; they make up nearly half of the visits... and probably will increase the more languages IMSLP gets translated into. And like Peter said, since IMSLP is a wiki, more people visiting the translations means that the translations can be improved on by more people, so it is probably in IMSLP's best interest to make translations as available as possible :)

::::In any case, let us not argue about this hehe :) If for some reason you do not like a translation, you can just change the language setting in your preferences to whatever other language you would like, and the entire IMSLP site will follow your setting :) --[[User:Feldmahler|Feldmahler]] 12:11, 2 March 2007 (EST)

::::And let me also take this opportunity to thank the IMSLP translators for the work they've put in :) --[[User:Feldmahler|Feldmahler]] 12:23, 2 March 2007 (EST)

:::''I have nothing against your translations'', but your idea of just translating the baseline and throwing it in your site is just ridicules. I mean, the navigation bar is in swedish, but the rest of the site is in english. You haven't even bothered to translate the info-pages, but despite that, you throw it in as a autodetected when somebody visits this site! You think that a translated baselinge is enough to make it a language 'section'... --[[User:Funper|Funper]] 15:41, 2 March 2007 (EST)
::::Oh... that wasn't translated by anyone; it came with the MediaWiki software. The only real "translations" of the site are the 6 ones listed on the main page :) I would very much welcome it if you wanted to start an actual Swedish translation (see [[Internationalization_(translation)]]).

::::Usually how translations of the IMSLP site work is that the main page is translated first, and then the pages linked by it, and so on. --[[User:Feldmahler|Feldmahler]] 17:19, 2 March 2007 (EST)

::::I've put up a forum thread which addresses this: [http://www.imslpforums.org/viewtopic.php?p=624]. --[[User:Feldmahler|Feldmahler]] 17:28, 2 March 2007 (EST)

::: VOTE NO!!! IT IS DULL AND ANNOYING! :) --[[User:Funper|Funper]] 19:27, 2 March 2007 (EST)

:::: Hahahahaha ;P --[[User:Feldmahler|Feldmahler]] 19:38, 2 March 2007 (EST)

== Protection of the Main Page ==

I've locked the main page due to recent vandalism... if anyone needs anything changed on it please tell me. --[[User:Feldmahler|Feldmahler]] 20:51, 25 November 2006 (EST)

== Inside page scroller ==

I have setup a css scrollbar that works inside a wiki page (is not an iFrame). This could be good for something like "Recent Additions" where you could have it set to like 50 instead of like 10 or whatever it's set to now. Obviously good for other lists inside a page. Many settings are changeable from the wiki, colors, size, fonts, etc. Let me know if you want to use it and I'll post the CSS/wiki here. The CSS can be added right to MediaWiki:Common.css from the wiki but can only be added by sysop or greater.

Here are a few examples...

http://www.hak5.org/wiki/Category:Special_Guests

http://www.hak5.org/wiki/Goodies#Wallpapers

http://www.hak5.org/wiki/DL.TV (on the right)

http://www.hak5.org/wiki/Episode_2x05 (also on the right)

[[User:A Witt|A Witt]] 18:08, 18 December 2006 (EST)
:Wow... that would indeed be a nice thing for the main page (and so I won't have to change the length of the recent additions list whenever I add a news item -_-). It'd be great if you can post the CSS code :) --[[User:Feldmahler|Feldmahler]] 19:20, 18 December 2006 (EST)

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I made a separate page with the info.

[[Scroller]]

[[User:A Witt|A Witt]] 19:34, 18 December 2006 (EST)

== Scroller Attempts ==
Call me dumb... but I can't for the life of me find a way to use the scroller the way I want it to be. Basically, what I'm thinking is using the scroller in the news pane, so that there is no change in length when I add a news item. Also, it's a good idea to make the width of the scrollbox flexible, so that it takes up half (width-wise) of the page regardless of what screen resolution the user is viewing it at, but I don't know if that can be done...<br>

So I'm going to let everyone get a chance to dip their hands in it and see if they can do it. If you manage to use it on other things and make them look better, that's even better :)<br>

The information about the scrollers can be found [[scroller|here]], and a duplicate main page that I set up so people can edit it (since the real main page is locked) can be found [[Main Page 2|here]]. Good luck! --[[User:Feldmahler|Feldmahler]] 21:46, 18 December 2006 (EST)

This should be closer to what you want...

[[scroller]]

You can now increase the # of recent additions to whatever you want, change the height and width, but I didn't use the #expr version cause I wasn't sure if you have the math/parser extensions. It doesn't really matter much thought since that can just be a template and you will only set it once.
:I like it, and also the shadowbox, which I think is quite useful on the wiki elsewhere. However, there's a problem with putting the scrollbox on the main page in that while the scrollbox works with IE6, it breaks with both Firefox2 and Konqueror (right side of scrollbox breaks out of the containing shadowbox). This is viewing the site at 1024x768... I don't know about 1200x1024, but the box should be resolution-independent, since people use vastly different resolutions. However, that might mean that the scrollbox can't be put on the main page :(, unless these two points can be fixed (browser compatibility and resolution independence). --[[User:Feldmahler|Feldmahler]] 11:38, 19 December 2006 (EST)

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I made the <nowiki><div class="scrolltext_a"</nowiki> width smaller, which is the setting that would show it breaking out of the shadowbox. It could go smaller and still look ok in higher resolutions. I have tested in Safari, IE6 pc, FF 2 mac/pc but all are 1200x1024 +

[[User:A Witt|A Witt]] 12:14, 19 December 2006 (EST)
:Nice; I'll do more with it after I finish being very busy for the next few days... basically there are two more things that are needed: a scrollbox around the News column, and possibly removing the shadowbox, and using only plain scrollbox. The shadowbox is quite useful elsewhere on the wiki, but I don't think it really fits with the layout of the main page (stands out too much). :) --[[User:Feldmahler|Feldmahler]] 12:43, 19 December 2006 (EST)
::I see you've changed it, and I like it! I will try it out on both main pages (english and spanish) in a few days. I won't be here most of the time before then so I don't want to change anything dramatic before then, in case there's some unforeseen problem (as unlikely as that is). --[[User:Feldmahler|Feldmahler]] 18:54, 19 December 2006 (EST)

== Copyright information ==

I think we need to make the "Copyright Information" section more prominent, so (hopefully) people don't just start vandalizing pages, and will actually contact someone instead. Probably should also mention the forums as an avenue to address possible infringement. --[[User:Emeraldimp|Emeraldimp]] 11:08, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

: That would be a nice idea... though I can't think of any good way to do this at the moment (maybe bold it?)... Regardless, I'll contact the guy first :) --[[User:Feldmahler|Feldmahler]] 11:28, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

== An error in spelling ==

"'''''However, in the case that there are violations, please contact us at imslp@imslp.org .'''''"

Can someone remove the space between the period and the sentence? [[User:Springeragh|Springeragh]] 13:30, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

User:Springeragh

2007-03-16T17:28:08Z

Springeragh:

#REDIRECT [en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Springeragh]

User:Springeragh

2007-03-16T17:27:43Z

Springeragh: Redirecting to Wikipedia:User:Springeragh

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