| Kálmán Mihalik ⟨User:Hegyhati⟩ |
[#2201] |
Since he died in 1922, he cannot have a user page.
| Posted at 02:05, 20 October 2012 by Carolus (administrator) |
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Dear Carolus, I'm sorry, I've read the "Simple copyright page", and I thought everything is ok, as He died before 1942. Please let me ask a question: He composed the so-called Transylvanian Anthem "Székely Himnusz" in 1921. Can I still upload that score? If Yes, how, if the composer has no user page?
| Posted at 02:14, 20 October 2012 by Hegyhati |
| Dear Carolus, I'm sorry, I've read the "Simple copyright page", and I thought everything is ok, as He died before 1942. Please let me ask a question: He composed the so-called Transylvanian Anthem "Székely Himnusz" in 1921. Can I still upload that score? If Yes, how, if the composer has no user page?
edit: Maybe I misunderstood You, sorry, I'm new at this. So there is no problem with the "composer page", but He can not have a "user page" (that was never my intention, sorry if I made something like that). Also, I saw Your edits on the page, thanks for them, I'll do those things better next time. And I'll continue uploading the score, as there is no problem with it, if I understand the rules correctly.
| Posted at 02:23, 20 October 2012 by Hegyhati |
| One more thing. Since this is in the description:
Nationality=[Country]
I did put "Hungary" not "Hungarian people" now I can see, that you corrected it. However, the Category page "Hungary people" still exists, that should probably be deleted. I'm sorry for making a mess.
| Posted at 02:30, 20 October 2012 by Hegyhati |
| Hello,
There's no copyright problem as he died in 1922. While Mihalik has a composer category page, he cannot have an actual IMSLP user page unless he manages to do it from the heavenly realm. On the other hand, you (as a living person) can have both a user page and a composer category page (if you are a composer, editor or arranger). The issue with the Székely Himnusz has to do with the author of the text, who lived until 1952, which makes the text under copyright until 2023 in the EU. For the "Nationality" field on composer pages, we used the adjective form of the word (Hungarian) instead of the name of the country (Hungary). The item you see (Hungary people) - which is pretty funny in English, since it's very close to hungry - will vanish as soon as the system cache updates in a few hours. Your upload worked fine. Welcome and best wishes,
| Posted at 03:38, 20 October 2012 by Carolus (administrator) |
| Hi! Thanks for Your help, everything is clear now. Meanwhile I've prepared my useer page and no, I'm not a composer, I just like typesetting with lilypond, and I have ~70 pieces (mostly classical cello and Hungarian folk-songs), that I'd like to upload here. (They are already on 8notes).
Yes, the textwriter lived longer, than EU laws would like, but since the US and Canadan are ok, I uploaded it. Also, it is an Anthem, basically everybody here knows the lyrics, (the first verses anyway), the rest of it can be found on the internet, see wikipedia [1]
| Posted at 03:46, 20 October 2012 by Hegyhati |
| The main thing to look out for with folksongs if that you aren't doing a folksong as arranged by someone who is not public domain - like Kodaly (who is not free even in Canada). Bartok, however, is free in Canada! Thanks for the wikipedia link. I'll add to the page.
| Posted at 04:07, 20 October 2012 by Carolus (administrator) |
| Thanks. Mostly they are not arranged, but collected, recorded by somebody. Is it also considered as "arrangement"?
| Posted at 04:13, 20 October 2012 by Hegyhati |
| That gets difficult - as it is quite dependent on the artist. Some have arranged the material in a significant way, others not so. The best way is to compare a performance with printed sources you know to be public domain. The huge Bartok series, for example, gives the folksongs in their 'pure' form. While Bartok's preface and commentary might be protected, the music itself would not be as it qualifies as a "scientific" edition.
| Posted at 05:12, 20 October 2012 by Carolus (administrator) |
| I see. Well, these are not really "arranged". They are in their original form, as the old people sang it in front of the grampohone or whatever. I'm not good in copyright stuffs, but I'll try to put it simply: these are songs that we were thought at the primary school from the schoolbooks we got (or without them, my parents know these songs as well). I've already uploaded them here [1].
| Posted at 05:24, 20 October 2012 by Hegyhati |
| They should probably be OK.
| Posted at 19:56, 20 October 2012 by Carolus (administrator) |
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