| Wishlist ⟨IMSLP:Music Publishers⟩ |
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I should check to see if this has been covered on the old talk page, but a "wishlist" of new publisher pages... wishlist is the wrong word, since it's not hard to start a new one up, I've started a few stubs myself and will new ones in the near future- not a wishlist, a ... bouncing-of-ideas board? -- a- "do we need this as-yet-not-here page yet, comparatively speaking?..." (since some of the new publisher pages I started I know were rather... inconsequential, publishers we don't have much, compared to some pubs. we still don't have pages for and could use. Rózsavölgyi of Pest/Budapest, Carisch & Janischen, Tischer & Jagenberg, etc. etc., some of the other medium-size US publishers (FA North of Philadelphia, others) maybe, might be useful, I think- tempted to start some of those if I haven't missed them... with emphasis on those that have a good number of plates from which to build plate tables and hence estimate/"triangulate" dates when not known ...
Eric
Posted at 13:39, 5 November 2012 by Schissel (administrator)
Edited at 13:39, 5 November 2012 by Schissel (administrator) |
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Also Erard, e.g. :)
| Posted at 16:04, 14 November 2012 by Schissel (administrator) |
| I think that would be very useful. Do it - maybe something like "Publisher pages to create."
| Posted at 19:09, 18 December 2012 by Kosboot |
| Hrm. Need to think about how to do that right, but will soon.
| Posted at 01:43, 29 January 2013 by Schissel (administrator) |
| still haven't, yet, not sure why. Priority to publishers that often used plate numbers, since this allows tables/cross-checking/back-referencing which can be quite useful...
Hrm. ...for now suggesting just at the moment
M.H. Gray (M. Gray's Music Stores) of California ; Goodwin & Tabb, of London (G.&T.); (Gyula/Julius) Rózsavölgyi (founded 1850, in Hungary.) ; Harmonie-Verlag, Berlin ; Louis Oertel of Hannover (plates L. ....) (the same I'm guessing as the later Berlin: Johannes Oertel Musikverlag- his son, maybe?)
| Posted at 18:01, 15 April 2013 by Schissel (administrator) |
| Rózsavölgyi perhaps a priority, there's already 60 pages or so here that have scores from that publisher... :) and indeed they use plate numbers, so it would be helpful to have a table, indeed.
(Oh, and maybe London: Edwin Ashdown also to that list; I agree about Erard piano maker/publisher too...) (Ok, I seem to be agreeing with myself here.)
Posted at 23:51, 15 April 2013 by Schissel (administrator)
Edited at 13:22, 3 August 2014 by Schissel (administrator) |
| Ah! Oh, and another important one...
"Vienna: Bureau d'Arts et d'Industrie" (sometimes found under a German equivalent) - apparently a fairly major turn-of-the-19th century publisher of Beethoven and late-Classical composers (Krommer, Wranitzkys, others)?
| Posted at 03:29, 2 February 2014 by Schissel (administrator) |
| "Bureau des Arts et d'Industrie, or Kunst- und Industrie-Comptoir. acc. to "Beethoven and His World" (Clive), firm of music publishers, and dealers in maps and map prints, founded in 1801 by the painter Joseph Anton Kappeller & the lawyer Jakob Holer, under the name "Kunst- und Industrie-Comptoir Kappeller und Holer". Kappeller left in 1802; ownership of the firm changed about a bit and the name changed to "Kunst- und Industrie-Comptoir zu Wien". The firm was taken over in 1814 by Joseph Riedl von Leuenstern.
They were Beethoven's principal publisher from 1802 to 1808 (when Breitkopf assumed that role; before 1802 this was Artaria principally, even though sometimes Beethoven had had some works published by Mollo, with sometimes quite negative results...), and in all, the K-a-I-Comptoir Wien published in all some forty first editions of his works.
(Paraphrased from Clive. Might adapt to a publisher page, and expand, w plate table from Beethoven, Wranitzky, etc. Not to be confused with the Magasin de.. chim. ... de Graben, or the Chimische druckerei, or & c (the latter the first imprint of Haslinger), or...)
| Posted at 03:49, 2 February 2014 by Schissel (administrator) |
| If a wishlist of publishers is allowed, then a wishlist for composer worklists seems a jolly good idea too. I was surprised to find we lacked one for Henry Purcell, though I also lacked the time to go about compiling one as well. :(
| Posted at 04:29, 5 February 2014 by Pml |
| Wouldn't it be possible and useful to add a column with the used ISMN-Areas of the different Publishers?
| Posted at 13:00, 5 February 2014 by Hofius |
| that would be too much like work (apologies, stole that line from a comic book character. ok, that might be a good idea... hrm. or something like it.)
Two other publishers that could use pages btw- Leipzig: Steingräber ; Lyon: Janin frères. (Also -maybe at some point Margueritat, a French band/orchestra publisher of the late 19th century- though we don't have much of their stuff yet, I think. One sees some of these publishers very (very) often in Bibliographie de la France even if one sees them less often here. Maybe their productions haven't survived so well.)
Posted at 13:48, 18 April 2014 by Schissel (administrator)
Edited at 13:50, 18 April 2014 by Schissel (administrator) |
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