Thread - Arrangement with no original

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Arrangement with no original ⟨User:PatrickC⟩ [#26765]

Is it possible to add an arrangement of a work for which there is no original? If so, do I add the work with no file and then add the arrangement? In one case the original is there but only in a collection of works by various composers made by an editor. What do I do in that case?

Posted at 15:17, 18 June 2020 by PatrickC

What is the workpage your trying to add an arrangement from? There cannot be an arrangement without the original.

Posted at 16:04, 18 June 2020 by Sallen112 (administrator)

This one is for a piece by William Shield which appears in the collection 101 Classics (pp.70-71). I have that somewhere and could scan it or I could extract it from the collection and add it on the main page for Shield if that is the correct procedure.

Posted at 16:36, 18 June 2020 by PatrickC

If they are all separate pieces, then those are original works and separate workpages would definitely be recommended to be made, in the case of the arrangement you want to add.

Posted at 16:50, 18 June 2020 by Sallen112 (administrator)
Edited at 16:50, 18 June 2020 by Sallen112 (administrator)

Will do. Thank you.

Posted at 16:54, 18 June 2020 by PatrickC

You will have to check the publication date and the death dates of the editor, or arranger if he/she is credited, and even if that single work is extracted from the collection, the collection will have to be credited on the work page. The collection details will give the copyright administrators what they need so they can check for legality of the upload.

Apart from that, we have many pieces that are on their own pages, with notes that they are probably from larger works, and if anyone can identify them, they should contact an administrator so we can connect it with its original. Sometimes we get lucky . . . . B

Posted at 16:55, 18 June 2020 by Steltz (administrator)

The composer (Wm. Shield) died in 1829. The editor of the collection (published in 1928) and arranger (Ralph Dunstan) died in 1933, so I believe that the work is out of copyright. I will see how I go with uploading it. Thanks for your attention.

Posted at 18:10, 18 June 2020 by PatrickC
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