Thread - Selections from the 1725 AM Bach Notebook, Bärenreiter ed.

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Selections from the 1725 AM Bach Notebook, Bärenreiter ed. ⟨User:Fugalicious [#27269]

There is still a logo present on p46 of the scan. While you're at it, in my opinion you may as well just scrap the last 2 pages entirely, as the catalogue information on p46 is superfluous, and the text on the very last page may very well fall under copyright. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but it is not sufficient merely to point out how the editorial marks are indicated, they need actually to be removed. In this case, after a quick perusal of the score, I didn't actually notice any myself - aside from the suggested slurs on p8 - so it shouldn't be an issue. But all the same. I will not unblock the file until you have uploaded a version without the last 2 pages, or at least without the errant logo.

Posted at 13:25, 11 August 2020 by Skryabushka (administrator)

Hello! Thanks for looking at my file and catching these issues. It's helpful to know that even when content is promotional, we'd want to remove it. I've uploaded a new version of the file without the last two pages.

I wasn't sure if the editorial additions warranted removal, as they didn't strike me as the kind of thing a publisher would sue over. The added text (in italics) that I noticed was bar numbers, author names, sometimes the name of something implied elsewhere in the text, and the addition of "Fine" and "al Fine" and similar phrases around repeats. The added slur markings that I noticed were things like slurs where the notebook has some phrases but has omitted markings in similar contexts.

You can see examples of all these kinds of text in the pages numbered 7 and 8 (number 6 in the collection). I also noticed an added tie in the last system of number 11. If you think these markings warrant removal, I can edit the submission further at some point.

The preface mentions other editorial additions being marked by narrower or smaller engraving, so I put that in the Misc Notes section, but it's not obvious to me what other marks might be editorial.

Posted at 16:48, 11 August 2020 by Fugalicious
Edited at 16:49, 11 August 2020 by Fugalicious

Looking at the file again made me aware of some small defects in it, so I cleaned it up a little bit. If it would be possible to approve the latest version, I'd appreciate it! I've still left out the last two pages, as you directed.

Posted at 17:46, 11 August 2020 by Fugalicious

Great, thanks! Things like catalogues I don't think would qualify for copyright, because it's pure information; but I think it's best practice not to include any more of the publisher's information than is absolutely necessary. As I said above, I didn't find anything alarming in this scan - things like bar numbers certainly would not rise to the level of creativity required for copyright; and as I understand it, Bärenreiter's practice is to not include anything which cannot be found in some manuscript - so where fine has been included (in italics), it will be because it is in one source but not another. So those wouldn't be copyright either. Looks like Sallen tagged the file already, so you're all good now.

Posted at 10:40, 12 August 2020 by Skryabushka (administrator)

That's all good information to know. Thanks so much!

Posted at 13:53, 12 August 2020 by Fugalicious
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