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Take a Break? ⟨User:Fynnjamin [#28300]

Hey Fynnjamin I wouldn't asked this from you but I feel I need to say something now, is it possible you could take a break from uploading for the next few days to give the Copyright reviewers a little bit of a break? Honestly you have been on here uploading non-stop for weeks on end, I don't want to see you burnt out is all. Maybe work on something non-uploading related like editing workpages or publisher pages?

Posted at 09:17, 5 December 2020 by Sallen112 (administrator)
Edited at 09:20, 5 December 2020 by Sallen112 (administrator)

Sure, it's probably a good idea to take a break! This is what happens when all other time commitments fall away... Thanks! (-:

Posted at 14:43, 5 December 2020 by Fynnjamin
Edited at 14:44, 5 December 2020 by Fynnjamin

Just to give you an idea, we are human being who do have to review everything that is uploaded from people who cannot tag files themselves, so I would suggest don't get too obsessive uploading for too long of a period of time. So to have to tag things, compounding other uploaders on here as well, it does create a huge amount of work in the end (Carolus used to be the main person who did all the CR tagging for a number of years, then I decided to step up and he slowly phased out of the position to where he is now the person who deals with the more complex cases when they come up). Of course we still want you to upload as always, but its also necessary to once in a while (maybe every month) to take some time away to get a breather.

If there are big uploading projects you want to do, it might be best to notify one of the CR folks ahead of time (me for example) so we have an idea of the amount of files that will be uploaded to the site so its not a endless stream of uploads with no end in site who has uploaded alot on here recently so then there is an end in sight for that particular project at least! Because if your just uploading random things your going to find and we take note of how much you have uploaded over a long period of time, we might ask you to take a break for a bit of time in the future so we ourselves can get a breather.

But anyways, I do want to say we appreciate all you have uploaded to IMSLP so far!

Posted at 02:06, 6 December 2020 by Sallen112 (administrator)
Edited at 02:14, 6 December 2020 by Sallen112 (administrator)

I just uploaded a couple of files on a page I was cleaning up. Die aller treüeste Freindin (Radolt, Wenzel Ludwig von)
How about setting me an upload limit - what seems reasonable? No more than 5 works per day? I have lots of files I would like to upload still.

Posted at 15:00, 16 December 2020 by Fynnjamin

How many files approximately do you have queued to upload on here? I don't have any tool to limit people's uploads (only new people have the limits I believe, its automatically set).

I don't think you need to limit yourself to 5 honestly, most of what you upload is in the Public domain and you can do more, all I ask is maybe once a month in your case to take a break for a few days for us just to give me especially a rest (I do the most Copyright reviewing out of everyone else on the team). I am going to be having possibly a change in my weekly schedule pretty soon so maybe you might be able to go back to how much you want to do, we'll see.

The big thing with your uploads I am dealing with most of the time is your lack of attention to keep the code on the page tidy, you seem to place the File Name, File Description, Date Submitted, Scanner, etc. for additional uploads that match a stack below the Misc. Notes field. While I understand you want to save time where you can (since you seem to have alot to contribute), we do have a new feature that was implemented a while back in attaching a range to certain fields added to a stack (see the stack under diff in the History logs for what I am talking about) for some of the fields so one line at a time doesn't have to be manually copied and pasted surgically in a specific spot for every field (except for the File Name and Description, those have to be copied and pasted manually). Yes this doesn't change the page from the outset, but its preferable to the people like us to keep the page code as tidy as possible to have the lines in a specific order so one person is not doing all the work, pertaining to how the uploads list the code from top to bottom of a stack. For example, you can't have a range for the File Name and Description (honestly would be impossible but you can attach a range to say the Date Submitted as one example (2-4 on the end before the "=" sign or as many numbers up to 120, 120 I think is the limit for one stack on IMSLP). This way if you can start doing this, helps me save alot of time reviewing a page for cleanup and the Copyright Reviewing of a work (also please make sure the "|" for a new field start on a new line, you got back in the habit of not putting the code starting on a new line. The cleanup unfortinately is the most time consuming part of being on here versus the copyright reviewing most of the time.

Posted at 17:59, 16 December 2020 by Sallen112 (administrator)
Edited at 18:03, 16 December 2020 by Sallen112 (administrator)

OK, thanks, that's helpful to know how I can save time/work for others. That's just me being lazy, I apologise. I've cleaned up some of the sort of stuff you've described, but of course not all. I fear in my eagerness to help with unidentified arrangement tags, I've been helpfully adding to the clutter by putting the |File Tags lines under Arrangements and Transcriptions right at the top so it's easy to see near the "*For [instrument]" subtitle. I can go back and change this if that line should be in a specific order. I appreciated all the work you're doing!

Posted at 21:58, 16 December 2020 by Fynnjamin

Just keep in mind, I don't want to question your commitment to this website (which has been longer than me, I have seen your logs dating back to the early days) but things now are in a different phase from when things used to be earlier on (I would say this cleanup phase and polishing up of existing workpages have began back in 2015/16), when things were more experimental with trying out new things for the website (were always want to try new suggestions to see if they work still but we don't want drastic changes unless Feldmahler wants to do something new for us) but now were mostly focused on standardization across the site since basically pretty much the template used for the workpages are mostly pretty wide serving for most types of uploads now (maybe not every single type of recording yet since that is still kind of premature still for IMSLP but its been getting better) but also most workpages have been in a god awful disorganized state all over for a long time that has been needed to be cleaned up slowly over time for standardization and trying to enforce those standards on a daily basis can get very tough with everyone, its not easy. But I do believe in the mission of what IMSLP is trying to accomplish over the long term which is the serve all the public domain music to the world without restriction as much as possible to keep the site running and presentable in a professional state as a service to the world. Think about it on the level of what Wikipedia does in a way with there standards and rules for article creation, I think that is what we should strive to be next.

Posted at 02:31, 17 December 2020 by Sallen112 (administrator)
Edited at 02:36, 17 December 2020 by Sallen112 (administrator)

Also BTW do you know how to create Publisher pages? We could always use new ones if possible if they are not listed on the Music Publisher page. Also don't forget to include the birth and death dates next to each and every librettist since that is a standard feature to see that on every workpage.

Posted at 02:43, 17 December 2020 by Sallen112 (administrator)

Hey Fynnjamin, I hate to ask this once again, but you have been going on a pretty long time uploading on here again for the last number of months without taking a break again. I know this site is addictive for uploading alot of items online here, but would be nice to have a break soon from the CR folks at least from the uploads. Pretty much every page of yours I've had to edit something so would be nice to have a bit of a break from things on here. If you want to do workpage tagging or create new publisher pages or whatever you want to do, just take a break from the uploads is all would be appreciated for a bit thanks.

Posted at 09:10, 4 December 2021 by Sallen112 (administrator)
Edited at 09:11, 4 December 2021 by Sallen112 (administrator)

OK, yes - good call

Posted at 09:14, 4 December 2021 by Fynnjamin
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