Talk:Ausserlesener Paduanen und Galliarden, Erster Theil (Hildebrand, Christian)


Dear P.davydov, you have preferred to delete the single files off Füllsack-Hildebrand again. Thank you very much for not bothering me with any communication about that. (It's okay, I do not see any need for discussion. I simply do not see any alternative to restoring the deleted stuff.)

I am afraid it has escaped your attention that I informed you (on my talk page on September 14th, 2011) that it is essential for the transfer of WIMA files, that these files stay as they are, that means, undeleted. The old WIMA site is still online and widely used; entries of transferred files are changed into redirects pointing to the respective IMSLP URLs. Every transferred WIMA file subsequently deleted on IMSLP results in a broken link. The WIMA users are not especially fond of broken links. (EDIT: Okay, not broken links, but "orphan pages", which I do not regard as a big advance.)

I can and will not continue the transfer of my WIMA contributions (as there are more muti-file works to come) until I can be sure that no admin comes along and deletes the stuff as soon as I am done.

Can we come to the agreement that the transferred WIMA files (present and future) remain untouched as they are, and that new contributions will be made according to IMSLP style?

There is a lot of stuff to transfer, so I really appreciate a settlement of this issue that allows me to continue.

lurchi 20:45, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Hello Ulrich. IMSLP's policy is not to allow any duplicated files, which is the reason why the others had to be removed. I can understand your disappointment, but we have to be fair and apply the same policy to everyone, whether they are WIMA uploaders or not. I hope this won't prevent you from uploading the rest of your works, which would only be affected if they contained duplicate files. Best regards — P.davydov 22:01, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

I've fixed the orphan page problem through additional redirects for the Füllsack collection from 1607: all single piece pdf files are now redirected to the full score in IMSLP.

I principally agree that WIMA scores transferred to IMSLP should meet IMSLP policy. That been said I find it crucial for the success of this project that IMSLP reviewers, rather than just perform delete actions, communicate with WIMA uploaders when they encounter WIMA files which do not meet IMSLP requirements. That will inevitably happen now and then. I fear the project will die in an uncompleted state if WIMA uploaders repeatedly experience conflicts with IMSLP reviewers rather than dialogue.

I think it's OK that WIMA editions consisting of single pieces plus concatenated, complete editions are reduced to the complete edition provided

  • no information gets lost - the post editing of the Füllsack 1609 edition shows how this can be done
  • the complete scores are the results of concatenation ONLY - there are WIMA editions where the single scores do differ from the complete scores, for example Ravenscroft's Whole Booke of Psalmes.

but PLEASE communicate with WIMA uploaders before deleting uploaded stuff - and communicate with me such that I get a chance to fix orphan redirects! --Reccmo 17:14, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, Christian, for fixing the orphan problem. As that was my biggest concern, I think this is a good solution, so I don't have any more objections - for now ;-) Greetings, lurchi 11:17, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Page protected

Could anybody please un-protect this page? There is a bit of editing to do. Thanks, Ulrich. lurchi 08:02, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Ok. You can edit the page now. Hobbypianist 20:30, 18 November 2011 (UTC)