Talk:Piano Sonata No.8, Op.13 (Beethoven, Ludwig van)

The Beethoven's Pathetique sonata is unique according to me. He is just simply beginning his big career in music, and most people say his early works still steal ideas from W. A. Mozart or F. J. Haydn, or M. Clementy, etc. But my concern is in this sonata maybe Beethoven has feel free to express everything inside the work, one of his revolutionary expressive piano sonata next to Moonlight Sonata.

If you have a Breitkopf edition of the sonatas, please do not hesitate to re-scan it! It deserves a much better scan.

If you have a "Klaviersonaten Vol. I. Leipzig, Breitkopf & Härtel, 1923" edition at hand, please help and re-scan it! The scan currently available can hardly been read (its resolution is very bad).

It is so sad! All the more since this edition is a wonderful one: both a real scholar's edition as Breitkopf can do it, and something clear as crystal for the player. It has the best fingering you can dream of: even if it seems sometimes surprising at first, you only need to practice it a little bit to find out that is makes much sense and makes the whole thing natural all at once.

The way notes are dispatched on the higher and lower staves reflects perfectly the spirit of the melody lines, even when they get very intricate.

This comment could be made for every other scan of Sonata, so please help if you can!

6 editions published during Beethoven's life time

There are 6 editions of this sonata published during Beethoven's life time. 3 of them were published in Vienna and probably under his supervision. Interesting enough, there is NO repeat sign at the beginning of the Allegro sections. This suggests that Beethoven wants pianists to repeat the whole Grave section.

If there is anyone who has access to these editions, please have them scanned and uploaded here. They will be really helpful for interpreters of this sonata.


This sonata was one of Beethoven's truly "Romantic-era" pieces. Deathgleaner 18:44, 26 December 2008 (EST)