Category talk:Lange Sr., Samuel de

Improper redirect! Samuel de Lange (1840-1911) was also a composer (his quartet no.3 op.67 is at Sibley) but de Lange, Samuel redirects here. Eric 22:18, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

also, one of the organ works here is by Lange Sr., one by Lange Jr., apparently (note in the Sibley source and in the organ work itself: Lange (Rotterdam) and Lange (Köln) - different Samuel de Langes). Eric 01:42, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm not saying the guy from 1840-1911 didn't also exist, but you have to understand that I was going on the information originally given. The original Lange category gave 1811-1884, so I looked for someone with those dates. Is the guy with the dates you mention Jr.? KGill _{talk email} 02:13, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and which Lange was from Köln? KGill _{talk email} 02:17, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm calling him Jr. but actually I usually see him referred to as just Samuel de Lange (1840-1911), and I assume he's Sr.'s son. I don't know the biography here, will try to find out which worked in Rotterdam and which in Köln... I can find one Wiki-biography for either of them (well, two, but I don't read Russian at all, and Dutch only very, very very slightly) - http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_de_Lange_jr. ) - who was born in Rotterdam, but did work in Cologne/Keulen if I read it properly among other places, so it leaves proper identification ambiguous (since the organ document has to do with works-in rather than born-in, I think...) Eric 02:28, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

I can't remember where, but now that I'm thinking of it, I do remember reading somewhere that one was the other's son (which is why I redirected the category), but unfortunately I do not remember where. However, if Wikipedia says Sr., I'm inclined to believe it. KGill _{talk email} 02:35, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

The article on Sr. mentions Jr. and Daniel de Lange (there's a familiar name- I wonder why I've heard of him... it'll come back to me probably very soon!) as Samuel Sr.'s sons. I've seen Jr.'s 3rd quartet (the op.67 from Sibley) at the university library here (Cornell) also, which was why I looked for it :) Added the Dutch article as Detailed biography faute-de-mieux until it's translated into the English Wikipedia sometime. Eric 02:40, 5 November 2009 (UTC)