Talk:À Argenteau, Op.40 (Cui, César)

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Great Find! I live in the house and the area where Cesar Cui has composed these and I will have them performed on my upcoming 50th birthday... Thanks for the upload.

Copyright of edition posted as of today

The edition of this work that is currently available (Page Count: 59, Publisher Information: Moscow: P. Jurgenson, n.d.(1888). Plate 13901) is not from Jurgenson or from 1888. It is a late Soviet product: Moscow: Muzyka, 1988. The book (which has the same plate number throughout) is called Sochinenie, and contains piano works by the Might Five. I have seen this book myself (years ago) and re-checked the publishing information in WorldCat today. Shouldn't this edition be reviewed for copyright? If so, how does one report that? Lyle Neff 10:46, 6 September 2007 (EDT)

You can start a thread about this in the "Copyright Review" section of the forums. Also, are you it is not a reprint by Muzika of Jurgenson? Though even if it is Muzika's original publication it may still be public domain since it was published in the USSR era :) --Feldmahler 11:15, 6 September 2007 (EDT)
Thanks. I've done just that. Lyle Neff 18:37, 7 September 2007 (EDT)

Main entry title

I propose that this work be moved to an article under the characteristic title, "A Argenteau," because of the facts that (1) the scores for both of those versions feature that title more prominently on the title pages than the other information, and (2) the original piano solo version consists of 9 pieces, and the orchestrated suite (arr. by Glazunov) has 5. There needs to be a way of bringing both versions together in one article. My main question is, if this proposal is viable, do we spell the preposition with or without the accent mark? Lyle Neff 18:37, 7 September 2007 (EDT)

The two Bessel editions

Lyle, It really looks to me like the ca.1915 Bessel is a complete re-engraving - not just No.6. Even though the layout is very similar for the other 8 pieces, they are not identical. Also note the difference in the music symbols themselves - the clefs and whole-note heads in particular. I wonder if Cui made some revisions to the pieces later in life which were incorporated. Of course, the work could have been re-engraved simply because the original plates were worn out. At any rate, the ca.1915 score is really a typical Breitkopf engraving of that era, while the original Bessel is also very typical of Bessel's St. Petersburg shop. Carolus 14:57, 17 November 2008 (EST)

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