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Copyright Question

Thanks for your question. I'm not entirely sure, but Carolus is our expert in this field, so I've taken the liberty of copying your question to his talk page, so you can get an authoritative response. I hope that's OK — P.davydov

Response on both my page and on P.davydov's. Carolus 01:52, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Publisher field

This should be the editor, unless there is a specific publisher or copyright claimant named. For typesets, it is nearly always the editor. Listing the manuscript or source is fine - highly desirable, but it should be in the "Misc. comments" field. Carolus 01:52, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Tags

Hi Jeko89, please don't modify these as they are restricted to members of the categorization project team, all of whom have had to read a very long manual. Both of your tags were incorrect (causing an error) and had to be changed. Thanks, KGill talk email 12:16, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Marking old WIMA files

Hi Jeko, and thanks for the helpful work you've done on this. One thing: in order to clearly distinguish the WIMA files already present on IMSLP so that they can be manually redirected from the WIMA site, it is necessary to mark them thus: {{WIMAProject|yes}}. This makes sure it is put into an additional category so that it is easy to find. Thanks, KGill talk email 23:12, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! :-) I've gone back through and remarked the ones you had already done so they would be placed into the same category. Cheers, KGill talk email 23:20, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
WOW!! I'm happy to help... and pleased you helped me so much!(those capctha are driving me CRAZY, sometimes they doesn't work! I hope they'll disappear soon :))--jeko89 23:29, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Mogens Pedersøn editions by Fritz Brodersen

Dear Jeko89

Thanks so much for participating in the WIMA->IMSLP transfer project

I notice that you're planning to transfer the (many) editions by Fritz Brodersen. Therefore I notify you that I've transferred myself Fritz Brodersen's German language edition of 2 pieces from Pratum Spirituale by Mogens Pedersøn in connection with the transfer of my own editions. I do not intend to handle further Brodersen scores. Reccmo 18:06, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

That's very kind of you! I' didn't notice your submissions yet... well, the less work for me :))jeko89 19:07, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Works for Chorus

It's perfectly acceptable - actually a bit preferable - to use "Score and Parts" for choral works instead of separating them into the two sections "Vocal Scores" and "Parts." This way, you can simply upload the score and the individual parts to a choral work in a single operation, which makes it that much faster for the copyright taggers. While you will see the "Full Score" and "Parts" divisions for works as small as a string quartet, it's quite OK to use the "Scores and Parts" division for choral works up to 8 parts or so (not counting alternate clefs, etc.). On large, multi-movement works for chorus, like Missa Da pacem (Josquin Desprez), note that when the "Parts" tab is used and the work is divided up into the different movements, you do not use the movement title in the file descriptions, nor do you repeat the term "part" (as there are nothing but parts under that tab). Also, it's better to use the wiki formula for listing the movements in the general info section (see the edit window for details) than the system of html line-breaks you were using. You're doing a great job at adding the WIMA titles! Thanks, Carolus 04:56, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

You're abs.ly right! I'll be more careful in the future with such these things :) jeko89 14:00, 11 October 2011 (UTC).

Larger Instrumental works, by contrast....

Use separate tabs for "Full Scores" and "Parts". For example, the Concerto Grosso in B-flat major, HWV 312 is a case where it really is better to not upload the scores and parts in a single grouping. The fact that the WIMA files are split into separate movements (which will really need to be merged in this case as any orchestra wanting these parts would have to download a series of separate files and deal with the collation of all this themselves), makes the separate tabs even more necessary. Also note that we use Arabic numerals for parts which are one player per part, while Roman numerals for parts which are taken by multiple players (strings, typically). These Handel works technically qualify for the "Scores and Parts" tab arrangement mentioned above, but as they are standard-repertoire works by a very well-known composer, we're going with the format used for all of the other standard-repertoire orchestral works. Carolus 01:32, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

WIMA uploads

Hi Giacomo,

I notice your recent uploads have not been using the WIMA uploader link. This is potentially very problematic and I think you should pend any further uploads till this is clarified. The method of forwarding hyperlinks from WIMA to IMSLP relies on information about which files are hosted on IMSLP and not using the WIMA uploader circumvents this. Please review the documentation. Regards, Philip @ © talk 22:07, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Having reviewed the documentation myself, I believe there are two extra things you need to do in these cases, since the latest WIMA files have been newly combined from separate parts, so that the new files are not subdivided into individual movements like the old ones were.
1) I think this is usually where we add the ‘yes’ option to the project template, i.e. {{WIMA Project|yes}}
2) The file locations of the original files which you combined have to be listed on IMSLP:WIMA/Log along with the page that the new files are being hosted on at IMSLP – if you look at the format of that page, each line contains two hyperlinks, e.g.:
http://icking-music-archive.org/scores/composer_name/file_location.pdf http://imslp.org/wiki/Work_Title_(Composer_Name)
I can’t see any edits on this page in the last month, so at the least please check with Christian Mondrup on his talk page or at the forums that this is not going to be a problem. Cheers, Philip @ © talk 22:23, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Dear Giacomo

I've had a look at your uploads of HWV312-315 and agree with Pml that it's a problem that you've not been using the dedicated WIMA upload facility for transferring these scores from WIMA to IMSLP. As I read the postings to your own talk page and your questions posted to my talk page I assume that you've misunderstood the request from IMSLP staff member Carolus: he has asked you to upload orchestral music, like these concerti grossi in 2 distinct portions: one for the full scores (the Full scores tab) and one for the instrumental parts (the Parts tab). I guess you've understood that as a request for merging files (full scores and orchestral parts) as part of the WIMA->IMSLP transfer. However, you're NOT expected to perform any changes (like concatenations) to the WIMA files. WIMA files should be transferred as they are.

The concatenated full scores which are now in IMSLP are superfluous since there are also full scores for each movement like in WIMA. I've marked the concatenated full scores for deletion.

Concerning the orchestral parts you've performed two types of concatenation 1) a concatenated file for each instrument 2) a concatenation of all orchestral parts into one large file The later file is superfluous because there is an orchestral part for each instrument. I've marked the type 2 concatenations for deletion. The type 1 part files are different from those in WIMA. But now that they are in IMSLP we should keep them as they are.

I'll manually add the HWV 312-315 files to WIMA's redirection page. So please do not attempt to edit the IMSLP log page.

For your future transfers of WIMA scores to IMSLP please use ONLY the WIMA transfer facility and please transfer the files exactly as they are in WIMA. If you're in doubt how to distribute full scores and parts into tabbed pages please ask for advice in the Forum 'Merging WIMA with IMSLP' (http://imslpforums.org/viewforum.php?f=36) --Reccmo 14:08, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Reccmo, re the concatenated files - it's actually perfectly OK to have both the individual movement files and the file for the entire score (or parts); there is ample precedent for this for orchestral works. I've therefore removed the deletion templates. I do agree, however, that the WIMA special upload page should indeed be used, and if concatenation occurs it should only be after the individual movements have been transferred. Cheers, KGill talk email 14:17, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm attempting to get an overview of the progress of the WIMA/IMSLP project and have had a look at some of the WIMA contributions you've transferred. It looks like the sound- and engraving files associated with those scores have not been transferred. Could I ask you the favor of transferring the missing sound- and engraving files? --Reccmo 12:54, 4 March 2012 (EST)

Please have a look at my talk page for an explanation on how to add engraving- and sound files to a pdf score --Reccmo 13:30, 5 March 2012 (EST)

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