User talk:Schissel/archive11

Once again Eric I find the need to call on you. I just uploaded a new work and the title has two exclamation marks (!!), but it was really supposed to be the Roman numeral for 2 (II). My fault entirely, must've been a Freudian slip in all my excitement. Could you please once again bail me out? I thank you for your patience. User:EFerreri

Additionally, please accept my gratitude for all the assistance throughout my problematic uploading processes. I know it has been extra nonsense that I should have avoided. You have been very helpful indeed, and you are much appreciated! The IMSLP rocks. User:EFerreri

Hello User Schissel: I keep getting the old version of the complete score of my Divertimenti. Then I get the newer version, then the old again! The clarinet transposition is faulty on the original score and that file should be deleted. The file is IMSLP 115642 User:EFerreri



Hello Schissel, I have found the Kodaly Sonata Op.8 (a better more clear version) and Op.4 Sonata. I have cleaned up both scores. They are both PD in the US only (copyright of 1922, renewed in 1949 and assigned in 1952 to Universal Edition). To upload to the US server I need Admin status which I have asked for but do not have yet. But I know you have uploaded to the US server before (since uploading to US server is quite different than the normal IMSLP). How shall I go about getting these online? Thanks for your help. Generoso 19:18, 16 June 2011 (UTC)


June 17th 2011 Thank you for your interest in Kreuz. Do you know the works which are missing from his work list on klassika? Is there a scan of the pre 1914 version of his op 13 somewhere?

Regards WilliamBunting (comment left at 1:17 EDT)


I think this album of 11 pieces was all by Wollenhaupt, but I can't confirm it yet. Schirmer appears to have done a series of similar albums, by composer, frequently edited and fingered by their house editors of the era like Oesterle and Scharfenberg. So, for now I will title it Wollenhaupt Album, etc. until additional info surfaces. I know we already have items taken from the Chaminade Album which was done at around the same time. Carolus 03:02, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

New Template

For the InHarmony stuff {{IUharm}}. It has the option of doing a specific address to a given item. These templates are very good in that if the address changes (which they do from time to time), we can fix everything in one operation instead of fixing hundreds of individual links. Carolus 04:55, 18 June 2011 (UTC) I also made one for the Levy collection, but I need to do a little more work in order to make it flexible. Carolus 04:55, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Victor Ewald

Dear Eric, thank you for your effort! Unfortunately I can't help. BTW: I am excited about the collection of RSL. Prosit! --Ralph Theo Misch 22:33, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

I've discovered my uni library has a CD of the brass version. One of my projects today is to listen to it with the score of the string quartet version to see how close they are. Once I see that, I will know whether it is ia straight arrangement. Will get back to you . . . . Steltz 07:03, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
I've emailed a guy called Joseph Haddad, arranger of the earliest edition I can find (1982). Let's see what he took it from! Steltz 12:55, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
See also TrumpetMan202's message at the referring discussion page. --Ralph Theo Misch 23:25, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Some time ago, I've found Ewald's Brass Quintet Op.6 via :[1] - handwritten parts, some pages have a CR remark. I'll ask Carolus...--Ralph Theo Misch 23:47, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Wishlist reminders

A reminder, the format for composer’s header entries uses – to ensure the dash is unmistakably an en-dash, and not a hyphen, or an em-dash, or something else entirely from bizarro Unicode font world; and the composer dates are to be kept in as brief a format (YYYY–YYYY) as possible. Debugging why the link back for Clemens non Papa was so totally borked (because his dates were a mess) occupied way too many brain cells last night. The much-decreased verbiage on provenance of scores is much appreciated also: bear in mind the idea is for the list to be as short as practicable. Cheers, Philip @ © talk 02:50, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Hofmeister Verzeichnis and Monatsbericht

Hi Eric! Just wanted to let you know that the Verzeichnis part of the project is reaching its end as I will be posting a Hathi Trust version of 1908 tomorrow and that will exhaust their collection. In case you didn't notice I replaced the Google Books versions of 1882, 1899, 1904, and 1907 with Hathi Trust versions. The source (Google-NYPL) is the same but it eliminates grayscale pages and makes the margins uniform throughout. A major breakthrough – I just now figured out how to batch download the high-quality, black and white tif files of the Monatsbericht from the Austrian National Library. I'll see if I can get 1829 posted tomorrow. I also submitted feedback on Hathi Trust's Børresen String Quartet. Perhaps multiple requests will encourage them to correct it. I had also been waiting for George Elbridge Whiting's The Tale of the Viking to show up on Hathi as it was also available on Google Books and when it finally did it had the same problem so feedback to Hathi has also been submitted. --Cypressdome 05:17, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Copyright Review

Hi Eric. With Carolus taking his yearly month long vacation, and KGill going away to college next year (and most likely will not have time to contribute often), the copyright review team will be short on staff. I was wondering if you might be interested in taking the copyright review test and becoming a copyright reviewer for the wiki. If you are interested, I can send you the copyright review test. Cheers, Lndlewis10 17:40, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi Eric. [here is the new copyright review test. Please feel free to take as much time as needed, and send the answers to Carolus. Cheers, Lndlewis10 18:22, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

F.L. Ritter worklist

Hi Eric! Be sure to check Ritter's papers that are linked to on the composer page. Symphonies, concertos, and chamber music in full score with parts and all sitting unperformed in an archive. --Cypressdome 16:39, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Fabio Costa

Hi my dear Eric !.... What the matter with this page ? [2] --Squin 19:09, 1 July 2011 (UTC) So he had to re-upload all ? And in that case, should I blank the page before "work info" and delete every files he already ulpoaded ?--Squin 19:43, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit undone

I undid an edit you made for me (much appreciated nonetheless!) on my page "Young Gil Blas". The reason being is that "tone poem" is a formal description of the composition, rather than an alternative title for the work. Best wishes! User: EFerreri


I take it you approve? :-) Philip @ © talk 05:05, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
(Please keep replies here rather than migrating to my talk page.)

Erm... why? Hope my attitude toward the Sorabji edits wasn't too possessive in an unWiki (or any other) way. Or something else for that matter. ? Eric 12:21, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
I think you misunderstood – even with me putting in a smiley! No problems with your edits. Just wanted to start a conversation, seeing as you were obviously interested (and my dislike is merely with having to bounce around different pages to follow a thread of argument). Cheers Philip @ © talk 20:52, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Publisher Catalogs

Hi Eric. It looks like Emery has added the Ricordi catalog to the list but a link still ought to be added to Ricordi's page. Anyway, just add the catalog to the category Publishers’ Catalogues (Various) just like any music score then you might want to add a link to the file on the publisher's page in this fashion *[[Media:PMLP198832-Verlags_Catalog_der_Musikalien_Handlung_Jos.Aibl_1847.pdf‎|1847 Catalogue of Jos. Aibl]]. Nice to see that Sibley considers those worthy of scanning. --Cypressdome 03:04, 16 July 2011 (UTC)


You'll have to tell me which work page you are referring to. Steltz 20:01, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Since I haven't had an answer from you, I'm not sure what's up, but here's the quote: "Please do not revert a tag that uses information not in the title or subtitle unless IMSLP:Tagging explicitly says "use only for works... titled as such by the composer". That distinction is there for a reason, not meant to be slopped like paste over the entire set of tags. Thank you. Eric"
Firstly, "slopped like paste over the entire set of tags" makes it sound like I am making this mistake often, which I don't think I am, but if you are wanting to draw my attention to something I did wrong, perhaps you should let me know what the work was so I can at least see the mistake (if it indeed was one). Secondly "do not revert a tag that uses information not in the title or subtitle", unless you've made a grammatical error, is exactly what one should do. If the tag did not come from the title, it should revert to something that did, by following exactly the tagging system you quoted. I have been on the tagging team from the beginning, so I am familiar with it. I don't know what's causing this aggro, but I think perhaps you should tell me. Steltz 19:00, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

My talk page

Dear Eric, I think it's time to set up an archive. Unfortunately I could not find any instructions about it here. Do you help me please (it's not urgent)? Thanks! --Ralph Theo Misch 23:50, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot!! I'll try to do so next night. --Ralph Theo Misch 00:10, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


Since the main DNS server is down, it might be a good idea to hold back on uploading things for the time being. I don't know if you've been following the forums or not. Carolus 02:39, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Lange Pastoralquartett

Hi Schissel, I wonder if your new attribution to a composer from norway is correct. I have here the original printing of Verlag Seeling. On the back of the cover page one can find the following text:


Ich lag im Wald in süsser Ruh, belauschte der Vöglein Lieder; Gar lange, lange hört ich zu Und schrieb sie endlich nieder.

Unfortunately I don´t understand the meaning of your remark:

Apparently somewhat prodigious, published works as early as 1875? (These stand out in HMB from Gustav Lange's works however not just by the different name but the use of larger ensembles.)

Do you first speak from the norway Lange ('published works as early as 1875')and then from the german composer Gustav Lange? What is HMB? Is a quartet a larger ensemble?

Maybe Fr. Gustav Lange is the same as Gustav Lange.

GreetingsNotenschreiber 08:12, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

I had a look at HMB. It´s seems to be quite clear, that Fr.Gustav Lange is another composer as Gustav Lange. But he is certainly not the composer Gustav Friedrich Lange from Norway. Fr. Gustav Lange has in his composition list several works with woodwinds, that make sense. Unfortionately we don´t know something else about Fr. Gustav Lange, but he should have a composer page with the double reed pastorale.Notenschreiber 19:20, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

It seems there are two different composers: F. Gustav(?) Lange and Fr. Gustav Lange. We should create a composer page for Fr. Gustav Lange, we know some of his compositions with very funny titles and we are sure that among his compositions is the Pastoralquartett with the above motto in german, which I would like to quote on the composition page. (May be it´s a joke to use the german word "lange" (long) two times which coincides with the name of the composer. Considering his compostions concerning a pig he seems to be man with humour.) Any way it makes no sense to maintain the Gustav Friedrich Lange composer page without a composition from this norwagian composer and violinist.Notenschreiber 21:26, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

reversion part 2

You're still not telling me what page started all of this. If it's a mistake, I'm sorry, but I do need to see it so that I can look at it. I can, believe it or not, explain some of the specificity of these tags, and I do understand the rationale behind them. Please will you tell me what the page was? Steltz 21:39, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Lalo Violin Concerto

Hello Eric. I noticed your comment and change to the publication date. Grove's dictionary gives 1874 as the first edition, so might the 1882 edition be a reprint? It's also possible that the 1874 date relates to the orchestral score, rather than the piano reduction — P.davydov 17:15, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the swift reply. I have access to the Lalo worklist on Grove, and would be happy to take a look through his category to see what might be improved, if that doesn't conflict with your own cleanup work? — P.davydov 17:28, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
OK, all done (I think). Time to call it a night... — P.davydov 23:53, 20 July 2011 (UTC)