This page is for everyone involved with the July 2015 tagging marathon, aimed at clearing the backlog of untagged works.
The list of all untagged works can be found here: Category:Untagged pages. Please feel free to tackle them in any order you choose.
Each of us should aim to tag at least 10 works per day (but if you have to miss a day then it's OK to do 20 the following day to make up for it). If you are willing and able to do more than 10 a day, then you're very welcome to do so!
Just a reminder that the list of tags can be found at IMSLP:Tagging, and that the order of instruments in the tags must be the same as in that list.
Please post any questions or comments below, starting each new topic with a H2 header (e.g. ==New Subject==).
Number of Untagged Works
At 2000 GMT on Tuesday 30th June, the number of untagged works stood at 1,749.
The current total is now 175.
Click here to refresh the total.
Day Twenty One
- We've broken the 300 mark! Well done everybody — P.davydov 17:52, 21 July 2015 (EDT)
Day Twenty Two
- Getting real close now to passing 200 mark! We are so close to really cleaning out this list! Sallen112 21:38, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
Day Twenty Three
- List number was still around the same as late yesterday and writing this post: 217. Unofficially now it is looking like I probably cannot do anymore tagging from the list because the majority of these pieces require research that is a little beyond my capabilities. I will double check pieces again everyday but it is unlikely now I can keep tagging any of those. I have used Google alot to search for info on these pieces and they are getting more and more harder to find to the point of still leaving pages untagged. I have tried using RISM a bit, BNF, CPDL and wikipedia and other random sites to track down info, but I am coming up empty. I can keep the list down to where it is right now for current workpages today for example since alot of them are super easy. But I think my efforts to keep going on the list are getting too hard to figure out for me. So Davydov or Steltz, you guys will have to finish it off or Feduol. Thanks guys so much for this amazing effort of massively reducing the number of untagged workpages down as close to zero as possible, from all marathon volunteers! I honestly never even thought all of this would come to fruition, but it has! I know I was a pain sometimes and bugging everyone at the beginning of the month and I respect everyone's volunteer efforts for keeping the list down as much as possible but without the support of multiple volunteers to work on this list, none of this would have been even remotely possible, to bring down the list over 1500 workpages since July 1st (or June 30th actually)! I think from here on out, I probably will just keep the list down, just like Carolus has been doing but I don't think I can do much more, without the experts I am afraid, thanks again guys! Sallen112 21:12, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
- Also I hate to put more workpages under "und" because then those will be more workpages to figure out later. I would rather try to figure out the full tags for all workpages if possible, even though most won't be possible to get! :) Sallen112 21:18, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
- If we have pages with arrangements and no original work, and there's no clue as to the original instrumentation, then I think it makes sense to put them in the "und" category. If the original work ever gets uploaded then we can correct those details later; otherwise, the page will languish for eternity in the untagged works category, with no-one being able to play the original version anyway because we don't have the score. BTW, sorry I wasn't able to hut my target yesterday, due to illness, but I'll catch up at the weekend — P.davydov 01:28, 24 July 2015 (EDT)
- Its Ok, get better soon! Sallen112 01:36, 24 July 2015 (EDT)
Day Twenty Four
- Under 200 now! Of the remaining pages that only contain arrangements, and there is no indication of the original instrumentation, I think we should not hesitate to use "und" to signify that the original scoring cannot be determined. If it's also unclear if the original work was for written for instruments or for voices, then "pieces ; und" is acceptable.
For pages containing only a fragment of the original work (not an arrangement), it's fine to tag the instrumentation of the fragment, while also adding an "und" tag to signify that the scoring of the rest of the work is uncertain.
If all goes to plan then by the end of this tagathon, the "Works with undetermined instrumentation" category should contain any pages where we have exhausted all our research, and tags can only be refined whenever scores for the original work are uploaded. The list of "Untagged pages" will then only contain newly-uploaded scores, which hopefully can be dealt with relatively quickly — P.davydov 17:30, 24 July 2015 (EDT)
- Yes the Untagged workpage will become like the daily copyright checking routine, now that we have almost cleared the list, so close now! I would like to propose though that you guys will have to go back and recheck through most of the library although this would be extremely ambitious to say the least! Feldmahler at some point will be getting the one tag list up at some point for us to take a look at so we can tag the pages that have only a single tag on the page. All pages should have two or more tags correct? At least Genre and Instrumentation or Genre and Language as a minimum for the page. I imagine that there will be quite a number that will be compiled once the list is created for us to look at as our next step. Sallen112 18:38, 24 July 2015 (EDT)
- I'll create a new tag for it .... — P.davydov 04:02, 25 July 2015 (EDT)
Day Twenty Five
- I know this log is much earlier than normal but we hit passed the 100 mark! I think now from everyone, lets tag more than 10 so we can get this list cleared ASAP! If we do that we should be done today or tomorrow :-) Sallen112 10:08, 25 July 2015 (EDT)
- Down to 70 now! Well done and thank you everyone. Nearly there.... :-) — P.davydov 19:36, 25 July 2015 (EDT)
- Can anyone check the genre tags for these to see if they are correct? Sallen112 13:07, 26 July 2015 (EDT)
- Corrected to "antiphons ; 2sop bar ; la" — P.davydov 13:52, 26 July 2015 (EDT)
- Both Cantus Databe and Liber Usualis refer to Iter faciente Jesu as an antiphon and I didn't find any reference to Iter faciente Paulo. Probably it can be a text variation, I don't know, but it seems plausible to be considered as antiphon. Sorry for retagging, but the score is intended also to continuo (this information lacks in the instrumentation field.) --Feduol 14:34, 26 July 2015 (EDT)
- Probably a page in work of progress. I got alot of the tags but don't know if they are all correct! Sallen112 14:26, 26 July 2015 (EDT)
- Very good tagging, Sallen. I added also "fl bc". I think we can go back to that page after we finish the untagged pages. --Feduol 14:42, 26 July 2015 (EDT)
- I actually have personally played the famous bassoon sonata from the Magazine (it was literally called that at the time in the 18th century since Telemann did all of printing and publication himself!). We also need to link more workpages possibly into the movements section since this is a collection page. Sallen112 14:47, 26 July 2015 (EDT)
Day Twenty Six
- Possible final day of backlog tagging! We have less than 30 workpages left as of this post, can we get to zero? I believe we can! Sallen112 14:36, 26 July 2015 (EDT)
Untagged pages not listed
- Is there any reason why some untagged pages created years ago are appearing only today in untagged pages list? --Feduol 10:59, 27 July 2015 (EDT)
- No Idea, I saw this too! Sallen112 11:15, 27 July 2015 (EDT)
- Just to let everyone know, Feldmahler has just created today the Single Tag page for us to catch any user who only puts one tag down on a workpage. I suspect it works exactly the same as the untagged list except the system detects only one tag in this case from all pages. We should definitely take advantage of this list. Luckily at this moment there are far fewer pages in this list than I thought there would be, we should be able to clean this out with a day or two! Also can someone here add the ability on this page to use a catagory walker for this list possibly that works exactly the same as the untagged list? This would be helpful to have this extra way of narrowing down certain pages if necessary! Sallen112 12:53, 27 July 2015 (EDT)
- NVM I copied over the text from the Untagged list over to this new list. Can someone check the English and German to see if this is correct for the context of this page? Sallen112 13:11, 27 July 2015 (EDT)
When I download this file to check the contents I keep getting an error message that the PDF is damaged and can't be opened. Is this the same for everyone? — P.davydov 15:20, 27 July 2015 (EDT)
- I managed to open it from the original source. It's a collection of Steffani's operas — P.davydov 12:39, 28 July 2015 (EDT)
Day Twenty Seven
It looks like Feldmahler's recent change (see above) may have caused some old pages to appear in the untagged pages list for the first time. And just when we're down into single figures :-) Hopefully there won't be too many of these — P.davydov 17:19, 27 July 2015 (EDT)
- Well we have until friday (that is the last day of the month!) for the end of the tagathon ;) --Sallen112 18:25, 27 July 2015 (EDT)
- At this point, I am just guess here but I think the tagathon has probably come to an unofficial end now. Because of the new discovery of hidden workpages on the site that didn't show up in the list originally, we probably now have 3 pages on the list left before Monday (today my time) that are on the list right now. I think now what we should do is tag those three pages (if you guys can remember what they are) and that will be the official end of the tagathon. Now we have entered unoffically post-tagathon cleanup, which is the deep cleaning of the rest of the site hidden pages that have popped up and correcting any pages other users have tagged that may be incorrect and also the undetermined instrumentation list and now the next phase of this project since we have conquered the absolute majority of pages, has begun, wouldn't you guys agree with this? I could probably list the rest of the original workpages that we need to tag below if necessary so they stand out. Things already have definitely slowed down, as they already have done.
- One last thing by friday we should close this page down since we really won't need this anymore. Thanks again everyone, it has been a lot of fun figuring out these pages and now look into the future and hopefully keep the list down as much as possible to the point it won't grow and we won't be faced with another tagathon by where we will need help from various volunteers again and planning a month to doing intense tagging! I probably now will divert my attention away from this mostly now since I have more pressing projects I need to get done, but will be tagging any pages I see that I can tag quickly that pops up! Sallen112 23:43, 27 July 2015 (EDT)
- Thank you for all your contributions Sallen112, but for everyone else still with us until the tagathon ends on Friday, the untagged pages list still stands at around 30, due to some previously unlisted pages being uncovered by Feldmahler's recent change. It would be a great shame to leave the job unfinished when we're so close — P.davydov 04:05, 28 July 2015 (EDT)
The Last Day (Day Twenty Eight)
Apart from just one workpage which is awaiting an upload, everything else has now been tagged!!!!! When we started this project back in January 2010, it went so quickly at the beginning that everyone expected it to be done within a few months. Well, the road turned out to be a bit bumpier and much longer than that, but after five-and-a-half years we have finally reached our destination!
My sincere thanks to everyone who has helped during the Tagathon, and especially to Sallen112 for organising the whole thing. If the end of the project has left a void in your life, there are still ways you can continue to help:
But for now ... a big THANK YOU — P.davydov 12:52, 28 July 2015 (EDT)
- Really it was all my pleasure Davydov, I am glad to see a closer to the massive backlog for now, now we have to keep up with it! Sallen112 12:56, 28 July 2015 (EDT)
- Initially I though it was impossible to get everything tagged (and I told that 1000 of untagged pages was not bad), but I really amazed with the work that you did guys. Congratulations to everyone! I'd like to consider something: I think that some "generic" tags (I emphasize "sacred choruses") could be not so widely utilized in place of correct liturgical genre or "most similar" instrument we don't have a specific tag. What makes me happy and hopeful to continue to contribute with IMSLP is the possibility to improve always. My special thanks to Sallen and his enthusiasm and to everyone who have participated in this project! All the best, --Feduol 19:02, 28 July 2015 (EDT)
- I am sure you guys can correct this over time? Sallen112 19:11, 28 July 2015 (EDT)
- Yes, of course the tags can be changed with some research. --Feduol 20:40, 29 July 2015 (EDT)