were Kistner plates started definitely where the Probst plate numbers left off? I thought I saw evidence possibly to the contrary, in which case including Probst plates in a Kistner plate table is very confusing... Eric 02:35, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

I seem to recall they are pretty much a linear series, sort of like the Steiner & Co. / Haslinger run. Carolus 04:12, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

The stuff I thought was evidence to the contrary - some Onslow plates - seems unclear but not actually "evidence" anymore, it's more understandable now. :) I am still thinking that Fritsch needs its own table (though not nec. its own page...) -well, needs is a bit strong!- instead of being incorporated so briefly into another page when its plates, iirc, are unrelated to the plate table of that page... Eric 04:42, 10 May 2011 (UTC)