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Dear Eric, I've just discovered by chance your notes on KGill's page. I think I know what you mean (hopefully). I also know from painful experience what it means to decipher sometimes quite cryptic manuscripts. Do you think I should refrain from such projects (re-editions) in future? Frankly, I never feel quite comfortable with that. Regards --Ralph Theo Misch 22:26, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi Eric! I guess one of these days I'll get myself set up for posting scores to the US server but in the meantime I thought you wouldn't mind uploading Brian's Gothic Symphony to it. It has been decided over here that it is PD-US thanks to failure to register for copyright back in 1932 (and we've now confirmed there was no renewal in 1960). PML has already posted a file here that will need to be moved over as well. My cleaned-up copy of the symphony can be found here. The company that reprinted it removed the original publication information and I have removed their information as it contained a copyright warning that is invalid for the U.S. Many thanks! --Cypressdome 03:09, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
So what do I think about quartets with 2 violas? On a sample of one, definitely a lot of potential although there's a slight danger the violin might start to sound like an interloper. Down to particulars, I really enjoyed it! (certainly far more than Bendl's adagio yesterday, bow-droppingly dull). The parts would benefit from a little more attention, most importantly the violin which is one measure short (presumably a rest, about bar 30). The dynamics are sometimes a bit vague, particularly in the second half, also lacking a few complementaries, and the parts don't always agree as to where to play piu lento and where tempo primo. When do I get to play the rest...? Matesic 13:30, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
I apologize for making the move without doing more research -- Grove mentions no opus number and many online sources indicate the overture as Op.71 ... Calling my move "uninformed" is the comments field is rude, though ... I am not "uninformed" Massenetique talk email 11:41, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Hello, This is [EFerreri] wanting to say that your quartet was very enjoyable.
Please, you need not be modest about your work. It has flow. And your performer played most sympathetically. Keep at it I say. EFerreri
Hi Eric! I think I have a probable explanation for this thanks to the Handbook of American Music and Musicians which lists Mason's works by opus from 1 to 43. The Valse de Bravoure from 1854 is actually opus 5 not 15 (the publisher must have made a printing error) which better fits chronologically as opus 4 was published in 1854 and opus 6 in 1856. Opus 15 is the Ballade et barcarole published in 1864 and the real opus 13 is entitled Monody. Clavierstücke. --Cypressdome 03:43, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Eric! I see you added some information to Abt's Sneewittchen. Seeing "Klavier-Auszug" made me think piano reduction/vocal score but now having seen the libretto at BSB it confirms piano only. Makes sense in a way as Abt seemed to understand the market for his music. As for Mary A. Robinson being the same Robinson whose poetry was used in the Hahn work I have to disagree. The LOC has about a half dozen books published from about 1878 to 1899 that Mary A. Robinson translated from German for American publishers. Agnes Mary Frances Robinson (1857-1944) was a Francophile English poet whose work was set to music by Hahn. I've seen on Google books at least two works of hers that were contemporary with the Abt publication in which she is identified as A. Mary F. Robinson. I'll be updating the pages momentarily. Thanks for keeping me on my toes! --Cypressdome 23:22, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
Since this was part of a series, you might want to keep an eye out for any other parts that were part of it, especially if we already have the piano arrangement! :-)) Steltz 07:02, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Eric. You may already know about RISM online, but I've only recently stumbled across it. It's really useful for identifying the original instrumentation in renaissance, baroque and classical works, and I've set up a template to link some of the manuscript scans from libraries to their entries on RISM.
Anyway, I just wanted to pass that on in case you hadn't seen it before, as it seems to be a well-kept secret (from me at least) :-) — P.davydov 10:05, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Eric! We now have a template (PDL) for the Podlaska Digital Library. All you need to input is the number after "docmetadata?id=." We also have a corresponding Category:Scores from Podlaska Digital Library. I could only find three works from there on IMSLP. Enjoy, --Cypressdome 22:53, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Eric. I've split this file into its constituent parts, and resurrected the original pages, which means this page can be deleted. But when there's a compilation like this, it is the correct procedure to create individual pages for each of the constituent works, even if they only contain a cross-reference to the page for the compilation — P.davydov 11:50, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello Schissel: Thank you very much for rewriting my Molbe list. Regards WB
Thanks for the va part; it's beautifully clear. I have contacted the libary and they are going to upload the original va part.
Hi Eric! Unless my eyes deceive me the 200s have been completed. Thanks for all your contributions. Still a long road ahead! --Cypressdome 04:44, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi Eric, It seems that the LoC template can't point to an item in the LoC's old Memory of the Nation section. So for Abt's Op.72 I did put the reference as a regular external link. I'm not happy with the current solution, i.e. pointing to the LoC's root directory... − Pierre Ch. 20:37, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi Eric, thanks for your help! --Ralph Theo Misch 00:13, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
I'll confirm my thesis tomorrow.... --Ralph Theo Misch 01:19, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
Dear Eric, this does indeed have to be tagged for burlesques, since the tagging rules say "If a work's title includes more than one of the above terms (e.g. "Prelude and Fugue", "Romances and Songs" or "Valse-Scherzo") then a separate tag should be given for each term ("preludes ; fugues" . . ." I've re-tagged it. Steltz 08:10, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi − Yesterday I did found on WordlCat: (i) 1 song composed by "L.L. Scaife" − (ii) 1 song translated by "L.L. Scaife" − (iii) 1 song attributed to "Lauriston L Scaife" − then I see that this a attribution is probably a librarian's one: the source seems only to say "translated by L.L. Scaife" again... − Pierre Ch. 08:35, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
(moved from user page here)
Thanks for adding Trzech Budrysow. Mon is the biggest name after Chopin in Poland. As for Wilhelmowi Trosehelowi, the owi suffix is the masculine singular dative case ending for nouns. (to William) If you feel keen, there's plenty of Padereweski (d 1941) in Pomorska (Gdansk) library. Regards WilliamBunting (00:45, 9 January 2012 (UTC))
Hi Eric! In case you hadn't noticed I declared the Abt work list to be no longer under construction. Could one ever declare it to be finished? I finally got through all the HMB links and other Hofmeister publications. I'm sure I've missed some WoO works as there seemed to be quite a few published after his death but then you wonder if some of those could be individual songs from previously published collections. Anyhow, out of at least 623 works assigned an opus we only lack information on 65 by my count. Not bad considering the majority of those missing are early works. Thanks for all your contributions.
If you are interested I'm starting a new project focused on the scores from Debrecen University. As you know many of their scores are already here but aren't identified. Also, could there be a less helpful way to post scores than the method used at DU? You can see it in an almost-ready-to-go-live state at User:Cypressdome/Sandbox2. Your help is always appreciated. Thanks! --Cypressdome 05:29, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Well, congratulations for the Abt work list − you both did a great job!
Eric, do you have a link for the Du und I text reference? BTW, I try to keep track of the Abt uploads from LoC there. − Pierre Ch. 21:47, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Dear Eric, many thanks for the tip! But if I follow the link, I see no titles. Or I do not understand the nature of things? All the best! --Ralph Theo Misch 23:02, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for moving it to the right place. Sorry I only went half way, but I didn't know that it would be so straightforward to locate Agathe amongst the masses of opus numbers of Abt songs. The piece had been uploaded to the Richards page without any link to Abt, and I spotted it while uploading something else. I think there are a large number of straightforward arrangements and transcriptions residing solely on the arrangers' composer pages, and I think it is really useful if they can be shown as arrangements and shown both on the pages of the arranger and original composer. It took me a long time to figure out how to do it though!
...but actually a 4-equal sign. For example, under the tab "Full Scores" for any large opera (or "Parts", "Vocal Scores", "Arrangements and Transcriptions"), the four-equal divisions are typically "Complete" (or "Complete Opera"), followed by "Selections" (meaning more than one), followed by "Overture" and all the other individual pieces from the larger work. The 3-equal signs 'should' be limited to the ones listed above, plus "Piano Scores" and "<instrument> Scores", "Librettos" and "Books." We had a real problem starting with the WIMA uploads for a while as some of the WIMA folks wanted to create tabs for every 10 items in a huge collection. Tabs are really designed for different formats in which a given work appears. The one (sort of) exception to that rule is "Arrangements and Transcriptions" which can be in any format ranging from orchestra to solo instrument. Carolus 05:22, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi Eric! My understanding is that Parsons also translated the notes that appear at the bottom of the first page of many of the scores in Kullak's Chopin edition which is why I included him as translator on all those pages that don't actually include the editorial preface. Thanks, --Cypressdome 02:46, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your help with Corsin. I'm about to add a manuscript for solo harp that is by Corsin, so I think that is good evidence to support that this is harpist Louis-Joseph Corsin that died in 1822. James
Michel Rondeau has sent me an email referring your talk comments regarding his brass quartet arrangement of the carol tune 'Away in a manger':
When I have a look at the score and at the IMSLP work page I don't see an obvious solution of the problem. Michael's arrangement is rather a new composition like the numerous organ chorale preludes on beloved tunes than a mere setting of an original choral composition. And I tend to agree on the characteristics 'modern' (which is about as concise as terms like 'baroque' or 'romantic')
If the work page contains only information on the original composition - which is not in IMSLP - I believe IMSLP users might feel somewhat confused.
Maybe the right thing to do is to change the work page to a Rondeau composition. This would be an obvious solution for this particular arrangement. Unfortunately we can't necessarily do that with all Michael's arrangements. They vary from real compositions to mere adaptions - including all kinds of mixed cases.
PS How do I CC Michael (or other IMSLP users) to a talk posting like this? --Reccmo 17:32, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
A few days ago the Royal Library, Copenhagen received for scanning the copy of Gerson, Quatuor pour deux Violons, Viola et Violoncelle preserved at the State Library, Aarhus, Denmark.
This string quartet turns out to be G. 63, string quartet in A Minor. On the front page the (potential) bottom information on edition number and printing year is hidden by a label glued on by the Copenhagen publisher and music store, Lose (http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Christian_Lose_den_ældre). I don't know from where Jens Egeberg, responsible for the music digitizing at the Royal Library, has the publishing year, 1828. I'll ask him.
I've uploaded the scan to IMSLP.
BTW - I'm preparing a modern edition of G. 14, string quartet in G Minor (not G Major as stated in the IMSLP work page until a few minutes ago). --Reccmo 10:30, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
Yes, the genesis of several works of this comprehensive publication by Mrs. Ashford is not always clear. Regards --Ralph Theo Misch 23:59, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Eric, I didn't see the question, but I did think about that clock . . . in the end my decision was based on the fact that a third musician would not be needed. The appropriate tag would probably be "toy", except that then it would come up as "for 3 players". It's like a clarinetist doubling bass clarinet; it's one player, and the two different doubling parts don't get tagged separately unless there's a separate player on the bass clarinet part. Steltz 15:10, 4 March 2012 (EST)
I see the LOC mine continues to yield interesting treasures. They also have the vocal score to his Virginia; or, Ringing the Changes which unlike Claude Duval has no subject listed on the bibliographic record so the only way to know it was there would be to know that such an opera existed and to go looking for that specific score. I guess that guarantees much traffic on the LOC website from the likes of us miners. --Cypressdome 19:51, 4 March 2012 (EST)
If you look at the title page of the symphony (page 3 of the PDF, with the decorative border and the dedication to Richard Barth at the top), you will actually see the date of 1874 at the bottom of the page. I had all my sources lined up saying 1875, but faced with such an obvious date staring me in the face I felt a bit silly putting down anything different. Then again, this is why I prefer not to be a copyright reviewer - that way others can double-check for me!
Would it be easier if we amateurs did not attempt to add anything to the Sibley downloader, and let those with more knowledge and resources at their disposal do all the date-checking? (in line with the principle of "better to remain silent and have others think you are a fool, than to open your mouth/ keyboard and remove all doubt"??) Aldona 17:48, 9 March 2012 (EST)
No apology necessary - feel free to correct anything in my uploads that isn't right. Still learning my way around all the ins & outs of the copyright system. Aldona 18:02, 9 March 2012 (EST)
Oh, wow, that's a bit embarrassing for me! Can't believe I didn't notice that! Thanks so much for getting it fixed.JP3 10:39, 21 March 2012 (EDT)
It appears we have a very determined vandal/spammer tonight. I have to leave now, so please keep an eye open for this character - who has repeatedly created new usernames and copied the same spam-page. Thanks, Carolus 00:09, 25 March 2012 (EDT)
I have a copy of this prepared, but it's in copyright outside of America due to the librettist. Carolus recommended I ask you how to upload it only to the American server. Cheers! Adam Cuerden 20:05, 13 May 2012 (EDT)
Please, a friend of mine uploaded six files of music some day ago, but they do not appear on his page. May you explain me why? The page is:
Thank you very much for your help.