User talk:Carolus/archive8



Hallo! Here you are Viotti's opus numbers for all about duos. I could not find (and see) the original catalog I deduced all from this article:

By the way, the Chappell White catalogue numbers (W) try to list all Viotti's works but I don't know if it's so and it's enought authoritative.Usually we call viotti concert No.22 Op.XX Or 3rd duos of 1 Livre etc...


>Peters books 4-5 = 1°Livre de Duos = WIV 1-6 (keys : Es,B,E,D,C,A) (1789 ca.)

>Ricordi 6 Duos op.20 = 2° Livre de Duos = WIV 7-12 (keys: B,C,G,D,a,D) (1789-1790 ca.)

>6 Duos Faciles 3° Livre de Duos = WIV 13-18 (C,G,D,F,c,B) These are not on imslp

>Peters books 6&11 = 6 Duos livre 5 (to Chinnery) = WIV 19-24 (keys: A,e,B,F,C,E)(1797-1798 ca.)

>Peters book 8 = 3 Duos Op.18 = WIV 25-27 (keys : C,A,F)

>Peters book 3 = 3 Duos "a l'Amitiè" = WIV 28-30 (keys B,g,E) (1803 ca.)

>Peters books 12&13 = Serenades Op.23 = WIV 31-36 (keys A,D,G,Es,G,A) (1804 Ca.)

>Peters book 9 = WIV 3,2,1 (keys :A,d,D)

>Peters books 1&7 = Ricordi Op.29(only 3 duos) = WIVa 4-9 (keys D,A,c,a,G,E) It's told they are an arrangement of WIV 37-42 for 2 cellos,but it could be the opposite.

>Peters book 10 = 3 Duos Op.19 = WIVa 10-12 (keys b,c,Es) Originally string quartets WII 16-18

>3 Concertant Duos Op.20 = WIVa 13-15 (keys A,E,G) Originally for 2 vl and cello WIII 13-15 These are not on imslp

>3 Gran concertant duos Op.21 WIVa 16-18 (keys b(or h?),D,B) Originally for 2 vl and cello WIII 16-18 These are not on imslp

>3 Grand concertant duos op.22 WIV 19-21 (keys B,a,E) Originally for 2 vl and cello WIII 19-21 These are not on imslp



Thanks, Carmar. Hopefully, we'll be able to organize his work in a somewhat logical way with this info. Carolus 12:55, 4 May 2009 (EDT)

Mozart K.20

Yes I´m finished with K.20. However I´ll be happy if someone could take away the parts, BUT KEEP THE SCORE, since I have been told by friend, who is the master of the music in a parish here in Stockholm, that the chorists read directly from the score.

Best regars

DALTORPS (Brian Cohn). DALTORPS 19:04, 5 May 2009 (EDT)

Hedien Prelude

I'm not sure where to put this comment, but at any rate I submitted another piece today. (Prelude No. 6 for Piano by Hedien, Mark). I am the composer, and it's fine to list it either as public domain or Creative Commons. (I notice you usually switch it to Creative Commons, which is certainly OK.)

Once again, thank you very much for your help in adding my little pieces. I'll probably also be submitting a Woodwind Quartet in the next few days, with the parts.

IMSLP is really one of the great contributions to the internet (and world culture for that matter).

--Mark Hedien

Thanks for the kind words, Mark. Thank also go to you for contributing your own work here. Best Wishes, Carolus 01:19, 7 May 2009 (EDT)

Hedien Woodwind Quartet

I just uploaded a Woodwind Quartet. I immediately had to edit the title (I had entered "Woowind.") Sorry about that. I also uploaded all of the parts.

As before, I am the composer of that work, and it's OK to list them as public domain or Creative Commons.

Thanks again. I'll leave you alone for a little while. I do work close to a major University library, so maybe I'll check and see if there's something in there that I can add to the archive (that isn't already there). I assume that if I can find anything pre-1923, it would be OK.

--Mark Hedien

Barsani Mosè

Sorry I wrong family name.He is Borsani instead of Barsani Sorry Ciao Carmar

No problem, I'll take care of it. Thanks, Carolus 19:31, 11 May 2009 (EDT)

copyright review

Hi Carolus,

I'm hoping to help out with some of IMSLP's projects and I wondered what the current protocol is for becoming a copyright reviewer. Do I still take the 3-page test, or have things changed? Physicist 13:30, 17 May 2009 (EDT)

Hi, I'll mention your interest to the others. We already have quite a few reviewers, and there is no longer any backlog. I certainly see no harm in having another member - since we're expecting some heavy contributions in the next few months. Yes, the 3-page test is still used. Thanks, Carolus 18:55, 17 May 2009 (EDT)

Chopin piece

Dear Carolus,

Good Afternoon.The Chopin piece I uploaded several days ago is downloaded from a French website.And I cannot understand French.Yesterday,I found that the website had been translated into English.And on the top of the website,it writes the scores on it all are from public domain.So I uploaded the Chopin piece again.I think I can share it with others this time.

I hope the sentences I write have no grammar mistakes. Thanks, Cjl914214:05, 21 May 2009(EDT)

No mistakes! Go ahead and add to the work-page I made for the piece. We can review easily from there. Carolus 01:31, 22 May 2009 (EDT)

The website is [1].I have made a mistake that the national flag looks like French, but I don't know which country it really belongs to.I hope what I understand of the sentences write on the is right.Cjl914214:20,21 May 2009(EDT)

Yes I think this site is actually located in France. Since they list the file as public domain on their site, I'll go ahead and give it a C/C/C tag for the time being. You should avoid uploading newer typesets like this since we sometimes get complaints asking us to take them down. This is especially true of the Werner Icking Music Archive (WIMA). Thanks, Carolus 01:48, 22 May 2009 (EDT)

Thanks for your checking.And shall I link the page to List of compositions by Frédéric Chopin?But excuse me,I don't know what is C/C/C? I'll take care of avoiding this next time.Thanks again,Cjl914219:05,22 May 2009(EDT)

C/C/C is the copyright tagging. This indicates "checked" status, meaning that it is most likely public domain but not completely confirmed. Feel free to add to the work list. Thanks, Carolus 12:17, 22 May 2009 (EDT)


Hi, I saw that you're an admin here and wanted to quickly ask how long captcha stays on a new user's account. I'm interested in helping out here and there, but less so if I have to put up with a captcha on every edit. If you could let know I'd appreciate it—thanks! --Spangineer 21:41, 22 May 2009 (EDT)

Hi, I think it's two weeks. We had to do this because of some serious vandalism a while back. Peter, who is one of our official bureaucrats, might be able to disable the captcha for you manually. I'm the copyright admin, BTW. As you can see, I usually am around here every day. Thanks, Carolus 01:31, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

Incorrect spelling of title of work "Woowind Quartet" should be "Woodwind Quartet" -- can't seem to edit it

Sorry to bother you once again, but I apparrently mis-spelled the title of my work. I have edited the title where possible, but it still shows up as "Woowind Quartet" on the main page. Is there any way to fix this? I know it's a minor issue, but if you have time, it would be nice to have it spelled right.

Thanks yet again.


I'll take care of it. To correct spelling on a work-page, use the "move page" feature. Carolus 14:30, 28 May 2009 (EDT)

Thanks very much.

Bach - Magnificat BWV 243

Hello Carolus,

There is a small error in the Bach's [Magnificat]

Indeed, the page 31 has nothing to do with the Magnificat! It is part of an Aria of the Bach's Cantata BWV 201.

Could you scan the real page 31 of the Magnificat? (Omnes generationes)

Thank you very much!


Thanks for letting me know! I'll find a replacement page. Carolus 00:15, 3 June 2009 (EDT)

Composer: Högn, August

Hello! My Name is Josef Friedrich! I'm the owner of the rights of the works of August Högn. Please see here: or . Its in German. But if you want it, I can translate if. z. B. Einverstädniserklärung = Declaration of agreement; Nutzungsrecht = Right of Usage

Is it possible to cancel the deletion? I want to publish the works of August Högn under CC. Thank you very much.

Josef Friedrich

Thanks for letting us know. All is restored now and ready to go. Carolus 23:55, 3 June 2009 (EDT)

Stamitz Clarinet Concerto

Is it that hard for you to go to the website and check it out for yourself if the music is in free distrubution? I mean all I try to do is help this good cause and I get yelled at something that is legal but you will not know for sure because you seem to lazy to go look it up. I uploaded another typeset from which is still here and not deleted. The reason why it was not deleted is because the copywrite reviewer took the time to go on the website and checked it out for him/herself. You say I am wasting your time but really it is you who is preventing this wonderful cause for becoming fufilled. Please show some gratitude.


You have been repeatedly warned about this by several of our copyright reviewers. 1. The fact that a typeset is hosted at another website does not mean that you have their permission to post it here - unless they explicitly state so. 2. You never list where you have taken things to post here. How we are supposed to know which of the hundreds of websites you took things from and posted here with no credit to the typesetter? 3. You seem to have no clue of the difference between an arrangement and the original version of a work. You need to read an understand our guidelines for contributors before posting things here. Just because a composer is long dead (like Stamitz) it does not mean that a new edition or arrangement is automatically public domain. You have a lot of nerve referring to any reviewer here as "lazy", inasmuch as all you as appear to have done is constantly post things for which you've not obtained permission, nor even bothered to correctly attribute credit for. Carolus 14:22, 5 June 2009 (EDT) (IMSLP Copyright Admiin)
I'd just like to intervene and say that we really don't need a firefight here. We do not mean to offend, but we would certainly appreciate it if you gave us some more information to work with, allegroamabile. We're very sorry if you feel that your efforts are being wasted; they aren't. We can all learn from this.-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 17:15, 5 June 2009 (EDT)
I'm sure everything will work out. allegroamabile just needs to learn there is a reason we have procedures in place - and not to make remarks about folks being lazy, especially since I was the one who checked out the Peruvian site for the item uploaded last July. I've contacted the Clarinet Institute about having files for the arrangements and typesets duplicated here. If they're OK with it, maybe allegroamabile can help us out by uploading their stuff here. Carolus 23:33, 5 June 2009 (EDT)


Just a quick thanks for the insane amount of page cleanup that you've been doing lately. Keep up the good work! With any good luck, we'll soon find a fourth user who deserves the cleanup star!-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 21:19, 6 June 2009 (EDT)

I usually do it as part of copyright tagging. At any rate, we're going to hit 30,000 files soon - with lots more coming this summer. Carolus 01:56, 7 June 2009 (EDT)

Creation of pages of non PD composers

Hi Carolus,
in relation to the recently created Sicong Ma, Dohnanyi, etc. pages I just wanted to know your opinion and how we handle this in future. To be honest I don't want to have those pages on IMSLP because it doesn't make sense to have empty categories of composers here who won't enter PD in near future and it's against our policy (of deletion of empty pages). Users might be tempted to upload scores (even with a warning not to do so). On the wishlists many non PD composers have already red / bold warnings "no posting ....". As you said it's ok to allow it some months before the composer enters PD, this should be the maximum allowed. For the rest I would prefer immediate deletion. Well, if the others here want to keep such pages I'll accept it, of course! It's just that we need a common rule. Regards, Hobbypianist 15:32, 9 June 2009 (EDT)

Yes, I am also afraid that it will end up encouraging people to upload things that are under copyright. I think kcleung is trying to contact the family of Sicong, but Dohnanyi is still more than a year away before he entered the public domain. It's OK to have pages for composers who died in 1959, but nothing beyond that unless it's a case of where permission is being attempted. We already have that big exception for Stravinsky - but that page is there due to the very large number of attempts to post his things in the past. Thanks for reminding me. Carolus 17:35, 9 June 2009 (EDT)
See my answer. Regards, Hobbypianist 12:18, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

Mozart recording links

Hi Carolus, I think it's a mistake, I didn't put the link for the recordings ! hehe - I have only changed the french spelling "Amadé" instead of "Amadè" - but anyway thanks for letting me know that we can put directly the link on the work page I hadn't noticed that ! And I especially wanted to thank you for the Sleeping Beauty full score and piano score !! It is so wonderful !! Thanks again, Bryan P. C. C.

Ha! You're most welcome on Sleeping Beauty - more to follow on the full score. It's a real monster. Carolus 17:10, 10 June 2009 (EDT)

Re: Danish Library

Hello and thank you for the link for Danish Library uploads!

I like to dig through their collection every so often and upload something that catches my eye - unfortunately I have had less and less time recently so it is always good to see others getting involved. I notice that after I uploaded a couple of things from the Danish Library last night, another user came along and uploaded a few more. (stuff that I would not have attempted, as my knowledge of Danish is rather inadequate to have a stab at making a meaningful work page with a reasonable amount of background information.)

As for the Bach cantatas...I have been listening to some nice recordings of "sacred cantatas for alto", and putting together a little collection of things to pretend to sing along to when I'm in the car with the windows firmly wound up. (Not even in the shower...I don't want my husband and our housemate to be emotionally scarred for life. The only thing I share in common with Susan Boyle is definitely my looks! the only time I can be coaxed to sing in the presence of other people is safely tucked away in the church choir, surrounded by other altos on all sides.)

Aldona 17:06, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

Rebikov op. 33

Thanks for the tips. I wasn't aware of the title for the entire opus (not listed that way at Sibley).--Mattheson78 10:44, 18 June 2009 (EDT)

That one was fairly tricky, actually. He decided to add pieces to Op.33 years after the Trois Miniatures was published. Thanks, Carolus 13:53, 18 June 2009 (EDT)

Sinfonie e Concerti a 5, Op.2 (Albinoni, Tomaso)

Hi Carolus, the first and second violin part in the 6th concerto mov. 2, 3, 4, is identical - greatings -- Frinck 04:40, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

Hello Frinck, I assume you are referring here to the Walsh Print? Carolus 17:42, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

Woodwind Trio Added to Mark Hedien Composer Page

I added another piece to this page -- A Woodwind Trio. I am the composer and, from my perspective, public domain would be fine. I know it is your policy to list them as Creative Commons, so feel free to change the piece to that if you like. I did try to upload the files using the Creative Commons license, but they were not added to the page. If I am doing something wrong here, please let me know, as I understand you must put in a lot of time on these projects. Thanks again!

--Mark Hedien

Thank you!

Thank you very much for your correction on article "Harmonice Musices Odhecaton (Petrucci, Ottaviano)" It is the first time I am uploading, I did not know the correct manner to do it.

Hey, I was adding the Mendelssohn/Moscheles Duo concertant (on a theme from Weber's Preciosa) from the Sibley project. Should this be entered under one composer, or both?--Mattheson78 22:52, 21 June 2009 (EDT)

Since they both were involved in the composition, yes by all means add to both (as you've already done). Thanks, Carolus

Editha Knocker

Hello Carolus,
according to several sources Editha Grace Knocker died in 1950 (19.9.1950). The preface written by Alec Hyatt King (1911-1994) has to be removed, of course, but the rest should be ok. Hobbypianist 15:41, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

Another problem is that the translation had a valid 1948 copyright claim. It's not impossible that OUP forgot to renew in 1976, but highly unlikely since they've had a New York branch for many decades. So, even if the translation is OK for Canada, it will still be subject to the [TB] block for some time to come. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see the Versuch here. It's just that this translation has many pitfalls from a copyright standpoint. BTW, the Nielsen 'Chaconne' is one of my favorite pieces, thanks for posting it!! Carolus 18:34, 22 June 2009 (EDT)
Yes, I was aware of the [TB]. Although these scores are not available for the users I thought we would keep such items (after cleaning, of course). Anyway. Glad to see that you like Nielsen's Chaconne! Even more I´m fascinated by his op.40, really weird but attractive variations. Hobbypianist 12:52, 23 June 2009 (EDT)


Hi Carolus, I have translated the main page in to TRADITIONAL chinese. It is the page 首頁. (The current chinese version is SIMPLIFIED). Please add this into language list. This language is called 繁體中文. Regards,Notnd17:55, 27 June 2009 (EDT)

Thanks for the notice, Notnd. I'll copy your message to Feldmahler and to Leonard, since I'm more involved with the copyright end of things here. Thanks, Carolus 14:21, 27 June 2009 (EDT)

Rossini Variations

It is very likely (almost without a doubt) that Rossini wrote the piece for clarinet in c. His more popular Introduction, Theme, and Variations which is in E-flat major was still originally written for c clarinet even though the key signature would have been easier to play if it were composed for b-flat. I have noticed that some pages are missing from the back and I am pretty sure the typeset was made by Oliver Seely.

New Nick

Was "angeloflight" intended on your most recent upload, Carolus Magnus? I like it if it was. If it wasn't....-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 22:05, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

No, I was putting in the name of the person who actually uploaded it. They evidently didn't figure out how to add to the page itself. Carolus 22:10, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
And the link has been changed!-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 22:11, 2 July 2009 (EDT)