User talk:Kcleung
Free public domain sheet music from IMSLP / Petrucci Music Library
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Chinese Rhapsody (中国狂想曲) (Xian, Xinghai)
Dear Kcleung
Can you provide more information on the publication? It is very hard for us non-chinese speakers to examine the file in order to release it for access. --Peter talk 04:27, 19 July 2008 (EDT)
In response to your postings on the forums
Not to beat a dead horse, but IMSLP:File formats--Snailey Yell at me 16:37, 16 November 2008 (EST)
Sicong Ma
Dear Kcleung,
you have created a composer page for Sicong Ma (1912-1987). Do you have the written permission to post his works here? If not, the category will be deleted shortly. You can answer here on this discussion page. Regards, Hobbypianist 11:53, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
Sicong Ma
Ddar Kcleung, Do you have written permission from the composer's estate to post items here? You've been around here enough that surely know we cannot post things by composers who died in 1987 unless there is clearly permission to do so. Thanks, Carolus 11:55, 4 June 2009 (EDT) (IMSLP Copyright Admin)
Sicong Ma
Yes his works are of course still under copyright and I am NOT going to post the scores of his works on IMSLP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
However is it okay to just list the entry of the composer (and possibly a list of his works) here WITHOUT posting PDF scores of his works? so that people can know more about this composer and can be ready to prepare scores once he becomes PD. By law, the fact of the composer and the list of his work itself would not be copyrighted and we are not breaking any laws as long as we don't publish his scores. (otherwise the wikipedia article on Ma would be illegal!)
There are also other composers listed who are still in copyright
http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Non-Public_Domain_Composers
and I think there maybe 1-2 works by Ma published before 1923 (PD in USA)
- We'll probably need to put a warning similar to the one on the Stravinksy page to discourage anyone from uploading items, but it's good to have the info. Carolus 23:14, 5 June 2009 (EDT)
A standard template for non-PD composers
So like what pml suggested, we need to have a standard template for all composers in the category:
Category:Non-Public_Domain_Composers
which discourages contributors from posting scores unless they can positively proof that the work posted is injected into PD by licenses such as CC
undeleting the Dohnanyi entry
I have also set up a page for Dohnanyi yesterday but it is now removed. Dohnanyi's work will become PD in Canada and all life+50 countries at the end of next year, and all of his pre-1923 works (such as the Variations on a Nursery Rhyme) are already PD in USA. I believe having an entry for Dohnanyi now can encourage contributors to prepare PDFs for the entry of Dohnanyi to PD at the end of next year.
So is it okay to undelete my Dohnanyi entry? Or if not possible, can I re-create it?
- I will need to contact some of the other admins here about this entire issue. Actually, he does not enter P.D. until 2011 as the term runs to the end of the year. We do allow for putting up composer pages a year before the expiry of their term. At latest you can put Dohnanyi up again in January. Thanks, Carolus 03:07, 6 June 2009 (EDT)
Composer Pages for Non-PD Composers
Hello Kcleung, I spoke with Feldmahler about this issue and have discussed via message with the other admins. We will be permitting this feature in the near future since there should be a fairly simple way to disable the "add work" feature on such pages. This addresses the main concern we had, which was that having pages for composers like Shostakovich would simply encourage people to violate the law by scanning the works and uploading them here. Disabling the "add work" feature will minimize this risk. We expect to have a template for this type of page in a few weeks. Thanks for the suggestion. Best Wishes, Carolus 23:56, 15 June 2009 (EDT)
That's great! Apart from being a PD scanned PDF score repository, IMSLP also doubles as a wikipedia for composers all around the world, whether or not PD. To be honest, IMSLP is the best way to let the rest of the world knows about Chinese symphonic composers, regardless of whether they are currently in PD.
However for a non-PD composer, if the heirs decide to re-license a work to CC, (not necessary all works by the composer), what mechanism should we let the re-licensed work to be uploaded?
To be safe, should we still forbid web-based uploading and make the uploader to contact one of the copyright admin offline and produce proof that the work is already in CC? Or should we make the heirs to do the uploading themselves (offline to a copyright reviewer)? --Kcleung 05:27, 16 June 2009 (EDT)
Copyright Review
Hi, Go to the IMSLP:Copyright Reviewers page for an introduction to the procedures. A link to the test (PDF format) is at the bottom of the page. Once you passed the test, let one of us know and we'll have a bureaucrat assign CR status to you account. That's all there is to it! Carolus 23:26, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
- Congratulations! Now you get to have the userbox on your page (no, it's not automatic).-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 22:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
