User talk:Squin

Thanks for these great scans! BTW, if the work is not PD in the EU, the tagging system will display the Non PD-EU sign automatically after tagging. Thanks!-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 19:46, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Excellent Rameau. Thanks again-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 18:01, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks alot for this nice Rameau! Maybe it would be nice if in future uploads you could provide a link to the precise webpage of the work and not just to the gallica main page. --BoccaccioTalk Email 18:05, 26 January 2010 (UTC)


Madrigals from BNF

Hi Squin, I saw you managed to get the madrigals of De Bellis from BNF. How did you do this? I tried yesterday and today to download the pdf version at BNF but I always get the message that an error occurred and I should try later. Or did you download the jpegs individually and then combined them into a pdf (if so, how did you remove the BNF notice at the bottom of each jpeg?). --BoccaccioTalk Email 18:38, 16 February 2010 (UTC)


Might come in handy for these excellent scans.-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 21:01, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Ballet de Villeneuve-Saint-Georges (Moulinié, Étienne)

This work is Colasse's, not Moulinié's, isn't it? Pierre.chepelov 19:03, 9 April 2010 (UTC)


I just made Template:BNF; to use it, just put {{BNF}} in the "Scanned by" field when uploading a file; it should link to their website automatically. Thanks!-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 03:12, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

I saw that you mentioned on Snailey's talk page that getting the scores from the fonds Philidor is quite exhausting as you have to download pages one by one. Are you sure this is really necessary? In most cases, one should be able to get the pages quite easily using a download manager like curl under Linux. If you want, I can check how to do it best and then let you know. --BoccaccioTalk Email 07:12, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

I replied to your message on my talk page, just to let you know :) --BoccaccioTalk Email 18:18, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Capturer des manuscrits du site de Juillard


Je vois sur la page de l'Andantino de Liszt que vous y avez telechargé le manuscrit. Et vous avez réussi à garder la bonne qualité du scan de Juillard. Excellent! :) Sur le site de Juillard, il y a des manuscrits des œuvres de Liszt et de Beethoven (parmi lesquelles on trouve le grand fugue et la symphonie 9ième) que j'ai l'intéresse de capturer. J'ai plusieurs fois essayé ça, mais c'était en vain. Je fais peut-être tort. Comment avez-vous y arrivé? :) --Funper 23:29, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Salut Funper, Merci de me parler en français que tu maîtrises remarquablement ! Whaooo ! Bravo ! I think you can't catch these in one shot. I was obliged to puzzled, wanting a good quality. I proceed with screen captures. It takes hours for a big score. I first do this with some Scriabin manuscripts to give it as a gift to a dear friend (the excellent composer Jean-philippe Bec) witch indicate me this site. And I pursue for me with Poulenc, Mihaud (but I think i can't upload them for rights), Mendelsshon, Brahm's op 119 and now 118. Liszt was made especially for you 'cause i've seen you made first edition. That's why I've let you the message about it 2 month ago. So, si tu veux que je te compile quelque chose (mais pas trop énorme), je le ferais avec plaisir cher ami ! J'ai regardé la grosse fugue, à mon avis 123 pages = 200 heures = 300 Mo minimum pour une bonne qualité - Ouf ! --Squin 29 May 2010

Oh là là ! Non, non, non ! Merci beaucoup cher ami, mais ne puis-je ni te demander de faire ça, ni avais-je l'intention de te demander de faire de ce genre de travail. C'est vraiment trop à faire ! Je l'essayerai de nouveau moi-même. I'll try to see if there's any easy way of attaining the manuscripts without doing screen captures. As you can see on the right side of the Juilliard site, the pictures are in JPEG and one can see their filenames. It shouldn't be all too hard to attain them, in some way or another. Thanks again! :) --Funper 12:09, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
I left you an answer on my page, but maybe I just copy it here so that we have everything together. The site is written in Flash, so at least at the moment I do not see a way how to get access to the jpeg files directly. Maybe we have here someone who is really a computer expert and can find out where the jpeg files are in the end stored on their servers, otherwise I do not see any chance to get these files easily at the moment. It's nice to have filenames but without absolute filenames there is no chance. :-( But Versailles should be easy, I remember they allow one to access the files names easily. --BoccaccioTalk Email 19:20, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
I have written a short Tutorial on how to get these kinds of .jpgs from the Juilliard site. Maybe it will help. Generoso 19:39, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

A propos du site de manuscripts

Salut Squin, j'ai trouvé un moyen de capturer les fiches d'un scan du site de Juilliard. I figured it out after the excellent post of Horndude77 on the forums, see this for yourself. It appears that the scans are broken down to fragmentary JPEG files, which are accessed through the main site. I found a way to download these but couldn't find out how to automatically merge/combine these images together in order to produce a full page. This would be the preferable choice. Do you happen to know a way to do this automatically without manually stiching them together? --Funper 13:42, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

You can sign your posts using --~~~~ which is easier than typing you signature :) --Funper 22:20, 26 June 2010 (UTC) Ah ah ok ok ok --Squin 15:02, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Laetatus sum

Dear Squin: The "unknown tag" label is gone now. What happens is this: the first time a tag is used, the system doesn't recognize it. Davydov, the head of the tagging team, puts it into the database, and thereafter it is known. This might seem like a pain, but it does help check for mistakes, etc. -- if one of us has a misspelling, it would come up as unknown as well. In the case of the Bournonville, we might not have had any voice, violin and continuo pieces before. These unknown tags will usually disappear after a day or so because Davydov is normally quite quick to sort them out. (Steltz)

tagging uploads

Dear Squin: Thank you for your kind offer to help with the tagging, but there are 6 designated librarians who are the only ones who can do that at the moment. If you want to offer to help with the project generally, please contact Davydov. He is the only one who can add librarians to the project. Thanks. (Steltz)


Hi Squin. Thanks for your e-mail. The rule we recently adopted is that in page titles for works in the French language, only the first word (and names of people and places), should start with a capital letter. This was on the advice of native French speakers, although it's certainly true that many people, like yourself, also capitalize the first letter after articles "Un", "Le", etc. There's a reference to this rule at the start of this French wikipedia section. There are different systems in English as well, but we're trying to be consistent because the use of capital letters alters where page titles appear in alphabetical lists. (e.g. "Le Mariage Forcé" sorts before "Le mariage aux lanternes"), which can be very confusing! — P.davydov 21:07, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Merci! — P.davydov 07:14, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


Thanks a lot for your recent submissions. One thing though: It's fabulous that you are adding "1 piano" in the general information field, since that used to be what was required (informally). But, that rule has actually changed and it's no longer acceptable to do so in situations where not required. We are trying to make things coincide with the categorization project. Just saying 'piano', it perfectly fine. With kind regards, BKhon 15:48, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

La chevauchée de la chimère (Carraud, Gaston)

Hi Squin. Although the front cover says this was arranged by the author, the title page suggests that Bachelet was the arranger, so I've tagged it accordingly. This means it won't be public domain in Europe for another few years, but it's OK now in Canada and the USA — P.davydov 09:35, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

BNF items

Dear Squin, Please delete the BNF page making a quasi-copyright claim on the scans of public domain works before uploading. I just noticed the Chauvet piece has this. Many Thanks, Carolus 16:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Removing pseudo-copyright-claiming pages

Found out today how to do this if you have Preview on a Mac- the result is not always wonderful, but it's worth a try. If you do, select all the pages in the right hand side, then deselect the offending page, then print selected pages; choose the print as pdf option, then save as pdf. Eric 16:09, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Dear Squin, There's no need to blank pages for the items where you need to update the PDF file. Simply replace the file when you're finished making the modifications. There's a lot of valuable info about the pieces you've put in on these pages which would be lost if you blank them, so it's best to leave them as is and replace the files. We've not gotten any complaints from BNF - it's simply a good idea to remove their quasi-copyright claims so that visitors are not confused about the works being public domain. Your uploads have always been a great and welcome addition to the archive here. Thanks, Carolus 17:24, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
[copy of reply from my talk page] :Dear Squin, I think the only thing we really need to eliminate on BNF files is the separate opening page with the quasi-copyright claim. The :"source:gallica..." credit at the bottom of pages is not really a problem as it is not a claim of ownership or a corporate logo like Google or Microsoft. I will be able to help you with any of the files which you have uploaded where the opening copyright claim page is present. As I said on your talk page, your contributions to this site are superb and most appreciated. The good news is that the problem is much smaller than you thought it was. Carolus 16:06, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you in turn.

I think there are similar free tools for other computers. They're worth using, seriously- also help breaking up say a 4-movement PDF into its individual pieces so that people with slow connections don't have to wait, wait, wait (attends-y? I should say. I've forgotten my French, I apologize.) I should have done that with some of the big uploads I made the last day or so- some were much too large. Thanks again. Eric 16:33, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

No no, that much was clear, I was just giving another reason why having a PDF-editing program that would allow you to remove a page that claimed copyright that didn't actually exist - like those pages on those scores - was a good thing Eric 16:53, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

First - what kind of computer are you using? Eric 19:02, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

After a discussion on Carolus page, i realised that the problem wasn't what i thougt, so it was a misunderstanding. Only one upload was wrong, where i had forgotten to remove that page, the reference gallica on bottom of some others making no problem. I feel much light. However It gave me the opportunity to see you're a very friendly guy. Merci beaucoup Squin 05:56, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, and very glad it's been resolved! Eric 13:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


apparently Dupérier seems to have died in 1976 (though I realize a number of sources don't list this and I am not sure of this fact) by the way, so it'll be awhile before a category about his music can be created on IMSLP - best! Eric 11:05, 8 October 2010 (UTC)


I don't think anyone's making any threats (although he- the composer's grandson allegedly and claiming to represent the family- claims they still hold copyright in the image of Koechlin used here. The one on Wikipedia was uploaded by him- we may want to use that one instead, even though the source is the same. Giving credit though, being the requested condition for redistribution.) Am not a copyright reviewer and should most likely not involve myself in this - don't know what IMSLP etiquette is there, really. My email exchanges with Mr. Koechlin have not been promising. I have made points (not my own though I heartily agree) about IMSLP's being possibly - even likely - helpful to his grandfather's music, he has ignored them I believe while claiming to acknowledge them. Eric 13:25, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Colomer Valses intimes

btw do you want that page deleted (you seem to be moving the material to Valses concertantes, or something like that...? the best way to make sure of that is to put {{delete|reason=yourreasonhere}} -- something like that, preview it first, I should remember, pardon the early hour (it's 10 am , ok, not that early but...) Eric 13:45, 19 October 2010 (UTC) ah. here (Help:Page deletion contains the method. I was slightly wrong. Eric 13:49, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Merci :) Eric 14:12, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


Il y'aura (?) une espace typographique de trop :) Eric 21:21, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Couperin : Motets

Salut − Une bonne part des 8 Motets sont aussi dans les Elevations et Motets. Ne pourrait-on fusionner ces deux pages ?

Une petite remarque au passage (concernant la première de ces pages, mais j'ai déjà vu ça ailleurs) : pourquoi certains de tes PDF occupent-ils le bas de chaque page (au lieu d'occuper une page A4 ou A5 entière, "à l'italienne") ? Pierre.chepelov 21:12, 1 November 2010 (UTC)


J'ai oublié le dépot légal. Merci! Eric 16:07, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Musica sacra ad vespras (Geoffroy, Jean-Baptiste)

Je t'embête encore... Erreur de la biliothèque de Versailles : la dernière page (164) du PDF ne devrait pas y être, c'est le début d'un autre volume, présent en PDF sur leur site (sans cette page...)

D'autre part, ça ne me paraît pas un "complete score" : il n'y a là qu'un Superius. Pierre.chepelov 23:04, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Will have a look at it but

Hors d'IMSLP je travaille pas au bibliothèque (... hrm. seulement deux heures chaque semaine, dans le rôle d'un volontaire) - »bibliothécaire« décrit mes responsabilités ici, à IMSLP. (but I will have a look :) ) Eric 19:25, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

I put this note up on its talk page: Still too difficult to tag practically speaking without knowing what solo voices, etc. enter in other movements not represented in 2nd movement. We have chorus and animals and piano but there might be other things to add if we knew about the rest of the work. (Thanks!) Eric 19:52, 13 November 2010 (UTC) (note: I have no idea offhand how to 'tag' animal voices - we may have to invent something for that or at least ask over at the usual place (I forget if you are part of the tagging project or not - if not , I will ask later.)


Hi Squin. Just to let you know that he's been moved to Caryll, Ivan in accordance with IMSLP's naming guidelines. Cheers, KGill talk email 21:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)


Et merci!! Eric 22:24, 15 January 2011 (UTC)


Hi Squin. Just to let you know that we already had a category for her at Mercy-Argenteau, Louise de. Cheers, KGill talk email 02:01, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


SInce his name onsite is José de Cor-de-Lass, you were missing the de :) Eric 18:51, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

wind trio

also, thanks! It's only received a private performance, can't remember the exact date (probably have it written down somewhere), from the friends in college it was written for (the performance was around 1990, I think) - was taped though of course I don't have the right to upload that. Eric 20:05, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Enoch plate table consolidations

Squin, please see the topic I started over at Carolus' talk page and let me know what your opinions on the matter are. Thanks. Daphnis 04:22, 17 February 2011 (UTC)


I think most of my concern begins to be met by Heugel/Dating - thank you :) Eric 16:19, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Can see what I can do about it, I don't know of course :) :) Eric 17:54, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi Squin, I'd be happy to do some work on the Heugel page, I've just been busy with other things and haven't thought of it... I'm not great with tables though, maybe you could help me set them up? Massenetique talk email 17:47, 17 March 2011 (UTC)... Dont' worry Massenetique... I work on it... but, due to the massive work you've done before on it, I prefered to have your agreement first.... I will modifiy a lot of things.--Squin 17:58, 17 March 2011 (UTC)


Merci pour le message de bienvenue :) Je suis sur Montpellier, et souvent à Bordeaux. Présent ici pour faire de la maintenance (car j'ai une bonne expérience des wikis) et de la traduction.
J'essaierais par la suite d'ajouter quelques partitions et n'hésiterais pas à te solliciter si je rencontre le moindre problème. Amicalement, --Anthōny 17:42, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

separating tables

hrm. in HTML I believe that that might require either - more tables, supertables... :) - or even possibly frames!... I don't remember. in Wiki markup - I don't know. I need to work on Heugel too... Not yet finished of course with Mr. Chauvagnat (and some others) but ... in time, in time. :) Thanks! Eric 15:55, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Bonjour Squin,
si tu souhaites placer un tableau à gauche et un second plus à droite, je pense que le plus simple est d'utiliser la syntaxe suivante :
{| width="100%" style="background-color:#FFFFFF"
|valign="top" |
Premier tableau
Deuxième tableau
Amicalement, --Anthōny 19:32, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Introduction et rondo capriccioso, Op.28 (Saint-Saëns, Camille)

Nice autograph find! Lndlewis10 14:44, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Pièces pour la flûte traversiere, livre I, Op. 2 (Hotteterre, Jacques)

Thank you for your contribution on the page 'Pièces pour la flûte traversiere, livre I, Op. 2 (Hotteterre, Jacques)'. I do not know what happened with your last edition, but I have been undo this one and them corrected it. Regards.


moved to Danse bohème by Justin Clérice - hope that is what was desired! :) Eric 16:49, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

yesterday's uploads

It's OK, just look at what I did so you can see what should be done -- and keep those uploads coming! Steltz 08:22, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Em Quatro Dimensões (Costa, Fabio)

it seems the composer added the files manually, not by using the add files link on the work page. That's what the error means it would seem- music files have to be added the latter way. Eric 19:27, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

I think you and he may not have to blank that section of the workpage so long as he uses exactly- including capitalization - the same names for each file when he uploads them properly as he did previously so that the names on the workpage refer to the names of the new files. but the old music files need to be deleted, I am sure... Eric 19:52, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

High Res scans from BNF

Hallo Squin,

I noticed your recent uploads of scans from BNF, and you seem to save the individual pages then convert them to pdf. Better than the pdf downloads offered by BNF but at 1000 pixel not the best available at gallica. The following will not take more time:
Very high resolution greyscale scans can be accessed only on screen using the zoom (the icon on the far left): This is not tile-based but coordinate-based: Zoom in, then select a portion of the image for export (one of the buttons on the top right) into a new window. In the url of the new window, you can then change the coordinates to display the full page: "l=6" is the highest resolution of about 5400 pixel, try "r=0,0,6800,5000&save" to get the entire page (if your coordinates exceed the scanned image a little, the max scan will be displayed).
For your upload of the Vanheelen try,0,6800,5000&save and you get a picture of 4657x6498 pixel. You can save each high resolution image (on my mac by ctrl-click) as jpg file, leaf through the work by changing the page marker in the url, (e.g. f1 to f19), essentially as you seem do have done to the lower resolution scans.
And then I figured out how to use the command-line program cURL with the utility "Terminal" on my Mac (Thanks to Boccaccio for the command) - cURL is also available for Windows: In "Terminal" or a similar windows utility type (or copy/paste) curl '[1-19]&l=6&r=0,0,6800,5000&save' -o 'Vanheelen_Op_1_#1.jpg', and soon you will find all 19 high resolution jpg's on your hard disk. You can then remove the empty pages, crop and batchconvert to pdf. Since the original scans already have some jpg-compression, it is possible to further halve size by saving as pdf with a jpg-compression of 4 or 5 without decreasing quality noticably. See my Devienne Sonata or Telemann Der getreue Musikmeister uploads. Just a bit large for users with slow internet connections, but those could be directed to the BNF page for the low res download
If you have enough spare time, you may investigate this - but it is difficult to keep up with the speed new material is put online by libraries like BnF, SBB, SLUB... Just to quickly upload the offered download file may be much more time efficient.--Kalliwoda 09:13, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Hallo Squin, With cURL I had the same experience about a year ago, and not being a computer nerd, I just gave up. But then Boccaccio wrote down the entire command for one of the Karlsruhe files and that worked for me - then it was not that difficult to change the command to apply for the BNF scans. Unfortunately, for windows I cannot help, and the "Install cURL" help pages you find with google are impossible to understand for me...
But my point was also that it is not necessary to use cURL, you can increase the resolution of the pages you save very simply: try and copy the Vanheelen url above into your browser window. And you can change the work by changing the identification number (btv1b90098990 for the Verheelen). And if you consider the "l=6" files as too large for comfort, then with l=5 you get an intermediate resolutions (l=4 corresponds roughly to your upload).
This is just something you may want to try - my personal preference are the higher resolution files because I am looking for scans to play chamber music from - but the great thing about imslp is the different interests and preferences of users. Actually, more people are needed to upload all that BNF is making available.--Kalliwoda 06:04, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Ah, and now you wrote on my talk page while I was writing here...

Yes, the l=6 files are very large, but would offer the best starting material to convert to mochrome b/w. I use Photoshop, and found there an option to save as pdf with jpg compression (I use a compression level of 5 or 4), but that is still 1-2 MB per page. I therefore always give the link to the BNF page for people with slow internet connections.--Kalliwoda 06:53, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

to find a list of works for piano left hand to download do you mean?

and get better soon I very much hope, that's bad :(... sympathies!!!

you could start Category of scores for or featuring left-hand piano I think, then get more specific using the category walker... it's not complete since there are so many untagged pages for instance but hopefully it should help... Eric 15:33, 22 August 2011 (UTC) (the opera Otello is probably listed there, I'm guessing, because there's probably a left-hand arrangement of part of the opera there! Goes pretty well here I think, thank you. And welcome!)

I forgot to mention that a group of pieces some of which but not all of which are for left hand alone will not show up on that page. (Neither of course will any work IMSLP doesn't have yet or which doesn't mention "pflh" in its tag.) Scriabin's opus 9 is a pair of pieces both for left hand, though, and should show up... ah, I see the problem- it was indeed improperly tagged. it won't show up in the list for a little while now... but here's the link- Prelude and Nocturne for the Left Hand, Op.9, by Aleksandr Scriabin Eric 16:01, 22 August 2011 (UTC) (It's also possible the pflh tag hadn't been added when it was originally tagged)


I see that Bozarth disputes the authenticity of that study in any case (and of two other works- including the A major piano trio, which I have to say is almost definitely Brahms). Eric 17:12, 25 August 2011 (UTC)