Talk:Pomp and Circumstance, Op.39 (Elgar, Edward)


5th march.

There's a 5th march, isn't there? Even further ones? I'm pretty sure about the 5th, at least.

Just wondering if there are copyright restrictions that don't apply to the first four, preventing the 5th or further marches from being posted. M.J.E. 03:24, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

No, I don't know why Daphnis only scanned 4, and why OM only has 4 sets of parts, nor why Dover has reprinted only 4. I think Copyright is probably the case here.-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 03:29, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

No.5 was not published until 1930 and is still protected in the USA. He only wrote 5. Carolus 07:00, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Are you sure the copyright was renewed? This would be the only stumbling block to having the full set of five available (it would get a [TB] at present). As for the sixth march, Elgar only sketched the outline of the march, and there is a modern arrangement of it by Anthony Payne (who is also responsible for the realisation of Elgar’s unfinished Third Symphony). Philip Legge @ © talk 03:11, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Update: PC5 has been available since the EU server came on line later in 2010. A batch of parts would be nice (I suppose I will add this to my back-burner list of typesetting projects). PC6 arr. Payne is unavailable for the foreseeable future ;-) Philip @ © talk 23:37, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Re 6, At least, without permission which I suppose we could ask for on some basis (but I doubt any basis that would satisfy us and the current publisher would work...well- I don't know of course.) Eric 22:32, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Corrupt files

The full score of March #1 seems to be corrupt, and the Percussion part is also "damaged". Does anyone have readable copies, please?--Larry 00:37, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I can confirm the blurriness of the percussion part to March No.1, though the full score is fine. Philip Legge @ © talk 03:11, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
The full score is not "fine" and the Percussion part isn't just "blurred" but is actually corrupt. When I try to open the downloaded files I get the following errror-messages from Adobe Acrobat....
"There was an error reading this document. The file is damaged and could not be repaired."
for the score and
"There was a problem reading this document (9)."
for the Percussion part (which does then open, but with pages 1, 3, 4, 6 and 8 blank).--Larry 22:20, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Actually, all pages of the full score of No.1 and perc. parts are displayed correctly, I've just downloaded them. I use Firefox and Adobe Reader 9. Problems with corrupted file may occur if you use IE. Maybe you should change your browser. Hobbypianist 22:37, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

My apologies, the problem was not IE but rather that I was trying to use Adobe Acrobat (version 5.0) instead of the free Acrobat Reader to open the files. Now that I have installed the Reader (v9.3.0), the Score and Percussion part open just fine :-)--Larry 23:23, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Missing scores

The last page of the Harp-file of march 1 is missing. It stops after "Q" and the march continues until "T". Does anyone have the complete file, please?

Many of the harp parts from the OM set are sub-standard or missing, and I note that both harp parts (1 and 2) are missing the same passage of music from figure R onwards. Hopefully someone can scan these two missing pages. In the meantime I’ve added the {{Missing}} template which adds the page to a list of scores with similar issues. Cheers Philip @ © talk 05:08, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Accidental Accidents

Especially in the main section where it is in the key of G, many times are there notes that seem as though they should have accidentals... There are also a couple of chords that contain incorrect rhythms...

---Philip Jones

What… where? I suppose you mean the Trio of the first march, but would you actually like to clarify what you said? Cheers Philip @ © talk 05:49, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Sorry it took me so long! There are a few notes in that first march trio for the piano part that don't seem right; as in in the fourth measure of the fifth page, for example. The 'C' should probably be a 'C#'. In the orchestral part, for what would be that same note, that same note is sharp. I think that occurs twice or thrice. The other times I notice this, typically, are similar; as in one note should be sharp but isn't.

Thanks for that: so in other words the errors are in the unknown piano arrangement that has no connection to the original Elgar set of score and parts, just another anonymously-contributed typeset with mistakes. Thanks for the heads up. Cheers Philip @ © talk 23:37, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Thats what it seems. I'll see if the uploader knows and maybe we can fix it. No problem! ---Philip Jones

Arrangament from recorder

I uploaed an arrangament from recorder (see). Ferbr1 09:54, 4 March 2012 (EST)