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A little addition to Peter's message: regardless of the legal status of the scan itself, the CD Sheet Music logo is protected at least by trademark, and thus not in the public domain; in turn rendering the entire scan not public domain. --Feldmahler 13:27, 5 January 2007 (EST)

Chopin Op.10/25

Hi! I will have to delete the two pages you created because pages for both Op.10 and 25 already exists. If the file you have is one with both etude sets, it would be a good idea to split them up with at least Op.10 and 25 separate, because I don't think people will really need one single file with both etude sets. Thanks! --Feldmahler 17:06, 1 February 2007 (EST)

Bach transcriptions

Hi Guifre, I moved your submission of Bach transcriptions. The work pages for these works already existed, so even if it's a transcription, you have to add it to the same workpage to prevent redundancies of work pages. The Bach category is also listed by BWV number, in case you couldn't find the work alphabetically. --Peter 14:41, 8 February 2007 (EST)

Glenn Gould

Hi Guifre! I will have to remove Glenn Gould's arrangement of Wagner's Siegfried-Idyll... the publication was done in 2003, which means that it is not in the public domain. --Feldmahler 16:50, 22 February 2007 (EST)

Hummel 's transcriptions of Mozart's Piano Concertos

Hello Guifre, I think that you have not upload the pdf file. Beceause the page is empty. Bye ––Nomis

Serenade from 'Il Barviere de Seviglia' by Rossini (Thalberg, Sigismond)

I deleted this file. There was a clear copyright message on the score! --Peter _talk 14:20, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

Chopin: Etudes, Op. 10

Hello Guifre, This upload of yours appears to be scanned from a recent edition. Could you please let us know ehat this is scanned from? My guess would be that this edition was published after 1957, which raises potential copyright issues - depending on where it was published, and whether it's an urtext edition or not. Thanks, - Carolus 18:59, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

Title Correction

Heya there Guifre!

I am just leaving you this note to tell you that it would be better if, when uploading scores (and thus creating work pages), you didn't leave a space between Op. and the opus number. That is, you shouldn't do "Op. 6" but you should do "Op.6". This will help make the site look more organised, and save a lot of us from the effort of renaming all these work pages.

Take care! ~ jujimufu 09:24, 11 July 2007 (EDT)

Enescu 3rd violin sonata

Please tell me: Where can this work be found ?? Thanks ! - Ferruccio

You only need to search Enescu's page in "Composer name" and click the work page. ---> Here is

Enescu Piano Sonata Op 24 No 3

Unless I'm being daft, I think the link to this score is incorrect. It currently takes one to a list of directories, none of them linking in turn to Enescu. Can you fix this? Many thanks for your invaluable contributions!

Well I have asked for help to fix the work page. Anyway, click Image:Enescu op24-n3 sonata 2version.pdf for an "informal" download.

Hi Guifre, This piece has at least two pages with EveryNote's logo on it. As you no doubt already know, you'll need to remove those and repost it as soon as possible. The fact that EveryNote has it available leads me to wonder if the copyirght has somehow been allowed to lapse in the US. Thanks - Carolus 18:19, 13 July 2007 (EDT).

Thank you! Now I amb "cleaning" the file, but perhaps it will take me some days (depending on the source, my laptop goes crazy when trying to process more than one page with PDF Creator. --Guifre 15:04, 15 July 2007 (EDT)

Hummel's Mozart Transcriptions

Hi Guifre

I have been happily downloading the piano parts to these transcriptions which you uploaded, and enjoying the recordings which is available of the Concertos and 40th Symphony. You are doubtless aware that there are also parts for flute, violin and 'cello which go with the piano part. I was wondering where you found the piano parts, and whether you may have any idea if the parts are around somewhere?

Well, the files I uploaded are versions for piano solo: all the orchestral parts have been also transcribed, so there aren't any other parts. What I think you want are the original versions of piano and orchestra, that can be found here. You can also try the two piano versions (one plays the original solo part and the other all the orchestral parts transcribed), that are abailable in the Mozart page of this web.

Apart from this, there is annother version of the D minor concerto also transcribed for piano solo by Alkan (it displays a diferent way of transcribing, more "Lisztian"), that is in the Alkan page.

Finally, I tell you that I took the scores from an album of photocopies of the 1970's, so I do not know many informations of the music.

--Guifre 08:34, 15 July 2007 (EDT)

Hi Guifre

Thanks for your response. Hummel's transcriptions were actually done for the combination of flute, violin, cello and piano - it is these parts I am looking for. When I first downloaded them I too thought they were for piano solo, and just the piano part works well on its own, but having done some research into them, Hummel made them as part of chamber arrangements of Piano Concertos nos 10, 18, 24, 22, 25 and 26. He also did this for Symphonies 35, 36, 38, 39, 40 and 41. It was common practise to do such arrangements at the time so that people could discover and play large scale works at home (as there were no such things as recordings!). You can find recordings of the chamber versions of the piano concertos and 40th Symphony at iTunes and on Amazon, with the piano part played by Fumiko Shiraga.

Cheers

Hi! I have asked my uncle, who gave me the scores. He thinks that the other parts are at least ad libitum. If you look at the piano scores, there is no rest for the piano so that the other instruments could play alone, and there is no reference of any other instruments in the score. To convince me, my uncle showed me a video from youtube showing a concert performance af the Symphony No. 40 for piano solo.

Anyway, don't worry. I will make some research in the internet (e-mule is a wonderful source), as the other parts would give to the piece the timbrical contrast between solo and tutti. Perhaps they cannot be found because the transcriptions use the original violin, cello and flute parts of the orchestral version.

I have heard some free samples of the recordings at Itunes, and I think what I was saying: The violin, cello and flute parts could be the same. Anyway, I am also downloading some scores of concertos using e-mule. Perhaps one of them has the other parts.

Hello! Thanks for looking into this for me. I do agree that the piano parts work alone - but the difference with the other instruments is striking - you need more than two hands to play all the notes sometimes! The instrumental parts are not Mozart's originals as they frequently take parts from the missing instruments - this is especially the case for the 10th (double piano) concerto and all the symphonies. If you are interested, emusic.com have all the recordings available as mp3s and you can download all of them for the basic subscription plan costing about $18. If you haven't subscribed before, you get a free trial period to download a number of mp3s (I think it is 25). If you then cancel you get to keep the tracks anyway. Let me know if you have any luck with the parts.

Hi! I have found the Prager Symphony in eMule, but it is the same sort of piano version I uploaded. As a result of a search in Google, I have found a little text:

The piano part, also sold separately, was essentially an orchestral ... the 1830s of two of Hummel's Mozart piano concerto arrangements ("Authentic English ...

That's why it is so difficult to find the other parts. In fact, could be that very few copies still existed.

The photocopies I uploaded come from the Barcelona conservatory. They were used as training pieces for students that were going to play the solo part of the concertos (so as to know the orchestral 'entries' and the whole structure of the piece), and they were never used as concert pieces. After this, I think that at this moment I cannot do anything else. The last thing I could do is asking by piano teacher (who has a huge library), but now he is on holidays. As he has more sources, perhaps she could find the parts.

PS: If you are willing to play some Mozart's concertos with a chamber ensemble, try Nos. 11-12-13, KV413-415, where the wind parts can be omitted so as to play them with a chamber ensemble (string quartet or quintet), as the composer himself did in some occasions.

MIT Project

Hey there, Guiffre!

I see that you haven't progressed much in the MIT project.

I am willing to take up the letter R and finish it, because I finished the previous letter I was uploading, and I have free time to work.

I will start uploading from the end of letter R, and please inform me if you wish to take up the letter solely.

Take care! Cheers! ~ jujimufu 20:31, 9 August 2007 (EDT)

No problem at all :D Make sure to update the finished composers list as soon as you finish a name of a composer. Take care! ~ jujimufu 00:48, 18 August 2007 (EDT)

Scriabin - Fantasy for 2 pianos

Guifre, we need some semblance of publisher information for this piece. Please provide whatever you know. Thanks. Daphnis 19:11, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Wow, I am sorry!!, I just thought I had already done this. Well, now all is Ok. I am afraid the information Carolus wrote was wrong, and maybe the score will have to be blocked some years... But at least in long term it will not get lost!

--Guifré 15:04, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

I am sorry but I had to tag your contribution N/N/N (PD nowhere) which means that it will be deleted soon. As stated in the notice you included the piece has been largely rewordked by the the editor and one of them died in 1978.--Matthieu 05:57, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Fantasy on Themes from the Opera 'The Golden Cockerel'

This is actually composed by Efrem Zimbalist (1889-1985). While free in the USA (reprinted by Masters), it is definitely not free in Canada and had to be deleted, sorry. Carolus 19:19, 8 October 2009 (UTC) (IMSLP Copyright Admin)