User talk:Kerikan

Dear Kerikan!
We're sorry to have deleted your upload, but your score was not submitted properly. Please do not use the "upload file" link to upload scores! If you upload scores like this, no one will be able to use your submission! Please read the quick guide to learn how to correctly submit scores. A longer explanation on this can be found in the manual. More details and other ways to use the site can be found at the Contributor Portal.
We look forward to future submissions!
KGill talk email 01:51, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Also, please note that we do not create separate pages for the individual parts for pieces- all files go on one page. Thanks! KGill talk email 01:51, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi Kerikan. Could you please read the page How to Submit a Score before uploading any more files? None of the files you've uploaded can be accessed. Thanks, KGill talk email 23:39, 12 February 2010 (UTC)



Dear Kerikan

You recently submitted a file to GRADUS (Manookian, Jeff). This is a work by a living composer, and is protected by copyright. The file will not be accessible and will be deleted soon unless you declare to be the composer, or you can provide written permission by the copyright owner to distribute this file on IMSLP. Please read Public Domain for more information about copyright on IMSLP. You can provide an answer here by clicking on "edit" on top of this page.

Thank you.
Best regards,
Peter talk 16:50, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Dear Kerikan,

We are operating under the assumption that you are in fact the composer Jeff Manookian, or at least have his blessing to post things here. One item to watch for is to carefully choose which version of the Creative Commons license to be employed. The simplest one, Creative Commons Attribution 3.0, allows an Ebay seller to copy these files and re-sell them on Ebay without any notification or royalities to the composer. Using the Creative Commons Attribtion Non-commercial 3.0, or one of the Share-Alike versions, prohibits them from exploiting the work commercially (though they can include it as a "free bonus" CD). If this is still a concern, use the Performance restricted license. Thanks, Carolus 05:47, 15 February 2010 (UTC) (IMSLP Copyright Admin)

Uploading more than one file at once

Hi! You can use the link 'Upload multiple files to this page', right underneath the one you've been using. :-) Makes it a lot easier. Cheers, KGill talk email 22:43, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


Do NOT use all-cap page titles.

As a matter of politeness you can reply to our messages by clicking on EDIT on top of this page and typing your message at the bottom in the text box that will appear.--Peter talk 08:38, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Page numbers

Kerikan, please also kindly include the number of pages each PDF has on the upload page. This will save our reviewers from having to do one more thing unnecessarily. Thanks. Daphnis 15:43, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Copy of e-mail sent

Dear Mr. Kerikan,

You are not responding to our messages and our request on your user page. The user page is used as a means to communicate with other members, just like on wikipedia. If you do not know how to reply, you should read our messages, where we explained how to do that.

Please note that IMSLP is NOT a personal score archive, and that you have to comply to the library's rules and requests. Moreover, as this is an online community, it is a sign of politeness to respond to messages from the administrators.

Failure to comply to the project's guidelines and rules may result in temporary or permanent blocking of your account. Evidence of usage of IMSLP as a personal file archive may lead to deletion of your uploads. Please consider this as a first warning.

Yours sincerely,



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New Versions of Files


Your revised version of the file will not actually appear in the browser until the workpage's cache is refreshed in a couple of days. Kindly refrain from uploading the same version over and over just because you cannot see the new version instantly. It doesn't work that way. If you had been paying attention to the forums, you'd know this. Thanks, Carolus 22:40, 24 February 2010 (UTC) (IMSLP Copyright Admin)

Kerikan, please stop uploading new versions of your files unless there is a genuine change, such as the addition of a preface, deletion of duplicated pages, etc. In looking at the old versions of some of your files, I was unable to detect any problems - everything displays fine. I'm sending this as an email as well, since you do not appear to check your talk page. Consider this email your second warning. KGill talk email 17:09, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Kerikan has confirmed (by email) that his email works erratically (due to his location) and that he did not actually get any of these messages until today. It would perhaps be best to consider this when sending future messages. KGill talk email 01:13, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Titles of Works and Instrumentation

Dear Kerikan,

There is no need for you to include the instrumentation as part of the title unless you just want to. We now have a tagging system in place that enables users to find works in any instrumental or vocal combination they are looking for. I thought you might like to know this in case you are thinking you need to include the instrumentation as part of the title to help visitors find what they are looking for. Carolus 23:28, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Dear Carolus:

Thanks for the helful information regarding titles/instrumentation.


For example, the new version of Rachmaninoff's Vocalise would become a part of Rachmaninoff's op.34 (the larger work the Vocalise is extracted from, since it's op.34 no. 14!) - so 14 Romances, Op.34 (Rachmaninoff, Sergei) - and the file would be added to the "Arrangements and Transcriptions" section on that page. Thanks! Eric 16:21, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Rachmaninoff 4th Piano Concerto

Thanks a lot for these scans, especially the one of the parts! Quite a valuable addition to the site. Cheers, KGill talk email 21:11, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

My pleasure. It's an honor to be part of this magnificent service.


Sorry to delete your nice scan, but the continuo was realized by Frotscher, who died in 1967 and is thus in copyright. Thanks-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 14:26, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

House style

The house style established here is to not use a space after No. Op., etc. Yes, it's a little unusual, but please don't change it without talking to p.davydov (who is the head of our librarian team). That's why I moved it in the first place. Thanks, Carolus 08:53, 27 November 2010 (UTC) (IMSLP Copyright Admin)

Thanks for the notification. I appreciate these suggestions as to better and more correctly participate in this website.

Sextet for Woodwinds and Piano (Manookian, Jeff)

Hi Kerikan, the score and parts that you uploaded for the Sextet were actually duplicates of those for Simple Symphony No.2. Thanks, KGill talk email 16:16, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I'll upload the correct files. Jeff

Songs of Armenia(Manookian, Jeff)

I believe I did something terribly wrong while "editing" Songs of Armenia. How do I restore the file to the way it was before I destroyed it? Embarrassingly, Jeff

Creative Commons Licenses

Dear Composer or Copyright Owner,

Welcome to IMSLP/Petrucci Music Library! As a composer or other copyright proprietor, please take time to carefully review the Creative Commons and Performance Restricted licenses including the full licenses in PDF format. Generally speaking, the best version to employ for new works is either the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 4.0 or the Performance Restricted Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0. These allow for free downloading of the items you post, yet prohibits anyone who downloads the files from IMSLP from selling the files (on Ebay, for example), or from giving public performances on an explicitly commercial basis, making recordings of the work without written permission in advance from you, the composer and copyright owner. However, if you are affiliated with a performing rights society such as SOCAN (Canada), ASCAP, BMI or SESAC (USA), SACD, SACEM or SEAM (France), SABAM (Belgium), GEMA (Germany), PRS (UK), SGAE (Spain), SIAE (Italy), Artisjus (Hungary), ZAIKS (Poland), IPRS (India), JASRAC (Japan), or any of the myriad of similar agencies present in this Wikipedia listing, please note that at least some of these agencies refuse to honor the Creative Commons licenses. You should therefore seriously consider using one of the several IMSLP Performance Restricted Licenses for any works posted here if you are affiliated with a performance rights society.

For those uploading the first time, please remember choose the menu option "Add Your Own Composition" when uploading your original works (even if they are scans of manuscripts or printouts), "Add Your Own Arrangement" or "(Re)Typeset" when uploading new arrangements, and "Add Your Own Edition" or "(Re)Typeset" when uploading new editions of public domain works. As it is normally assumed that composers and arrangers have edited their own work, please leave the "Editor" field empty unless another person has actually edited your work (in which case their name should be inserted). Note also that the English term "Editor" is not the equivalent of the French editeur or Italian editore. "Editor" refers to the person who reviewed and corrected the piece, while the French and Italian words are closer to the English word "publisher". In the "Publisher" field, please use your own full legal name, as making your scores and sound files available for free download on this site constitutes "publication" under the laws of most countries in the world. (Note that this is done automatically when using the new upload tools). Please do not list your works as "public domain" as it is not legally possible for your works to be fully public domain under the 'moral rights' provisions of many copyright statutes around the world. Composers and other copyright owners should be aware that Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 is very similar to public domain as it allows for the unrestricted copying, performance (live and broadcast) and recording of the work (including explicitly commercial use) at no charge, with no compensation or royalties payable to the composer or copyright owner for such commercial exploitation. Note also that the all of the above licenses are considered to be IRREVOCABLE once a file has been uploaded under the lawful copyright owner's authorization.

PS: As long as you have not actually inserted a particular Creative Commons license in the PDF file itself, you are free to change the license after upload to something more suitable. However, any restrictions under an updated license are only applicable to copies of the files downloaded after the date of amendment. Copies downloaded before amendment date are likely subject to the original license terms, so please choose carefully. Composers are also encouraged to make use of our new template {{NoPerf}}, which automatically places works into a new category - Unperformed Works. To add this template to your pages, simply copy and paste the little template above (curly brackets and all) into the "First Performance" field of the "General Information" section on all work pages.

Best Wishes,

Carolus 03:51, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
(IMSLP Copyright Admin)
PS: Dear Jeff, Since you have built up a real catalog of works here, I thought it might be a good idea to remind you about what the different versions of the Creative Commons licenses mean. You can change the version used for previously uploaded items if you did not understand or realize that the simple Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 would allow for people to sell your files on Ebay without paying you a royalty. Best Wishes, Carolus 03:51, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

PS: For additional and more detailed explanation, please visit our Composer Portal page.

Dear Carolus: Thanks for drawing my attention to the Creative Commons differences. I admit I was ignorant of this. I'll take your advice and make the change. Most appreciatively, Jeff

An American in Paris (Gershwin, George)

Hi Kerikan. Regrettably, the very nice scan of the full score of this work that you uploaded had to be taken down, because the editor F. Campbell-Watson died only in 1980 - making it under copyright in virtually the entire world. (We've had this score uploaded several times; I've now put a notice on the page so hopefully others won't spend their time fruitlessly in the future.) Sorry about that, KGill talk email 02:37, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

I understand and wasn't aware of the Editor's constriction. A question: I have a some works on my personal page (Jeff Manookian) with orchestral parts available that don't figure on the "parts available" page. (Album of Opera Themes for the Junior String Orchestra - And Should We Die - Caminos Argentinos - Celebration Fanfare - Chopsticks Tango Fantastico - Concerto for 2 Pianos - Endless Are the Clouds - Improvisations on Armenian Folk Songs - Lux - Nexus - Requiem) How can I place the corresponding titles onto that page? Yes, I have read that the page is "manually" updated. Thank you. Jeff.

All of those works have now been linked to from the manual orchestra parts page (or in two cases, the analogous one for band pieces). To add these links, I simply navigated to the applicable page, clicked the 'edit' tab, and used Ctrl (or in my case Cmd)+F to find your name on the page. Once I got to that, I just copied the format the other entries were in:
:- {{NoComp|Example Piece|Manookian, Jeff}}
Cheers, KGill talk email 03:17, 29 December 2011 (UTC)


Armenian Suite

Dear Kerikan,

We typically don't have separate pages for arrangements, unless the arrangement is transformed in some way over and above scoring for a different ensemble. The String Quartet 'The Dances of St. Gregory' would be OK as a separate work if there are differences other than the instrumentation - material added or cut from the orchestral version. Otherwise, it really should go on the page for the Armenian Suite as the original version, since it appears to date from 2000 while the orchestration is from 2009. The orchestral setting would therefore appear under the arrangements and transcriptions tab. Since you've indicated that the string quartet is 25 minutes and the orchestral setting is 24, I'm leaving the pages separate for now. If for some reason you really wish to have two separate pages for these, then please use two different titles to avoid confusion. BTW, we now have a template for adding links to YouTube, which has a little instruction page here. Thanks, Carolus 16:17, 12 March 2012 (EDT) (IMSLP Copyright Admin)

Dear Carolus: There are some differences between the 2 versions compositionally. I'll take your advice and leave the works under separate pages. I will make the "change" back to the "String Quartet Dances of St. Gregory. Many thanks. Jeff (Kerikan)