User talk:Notnd



The so-called "Erwin edition" is not an edition at all, but a reprint of the original Goodwin & Tabb parts. However, while the scans themselves are public domain, you cannot reproduce corporate logos and trademarks. I cropped the images for the Violin I part (so you can see what has to be done), but have deleted the Violin II. Also, it is much better if you scan orchestra parts at 300 x 300 dpi, monochrome instead of 96 x 96 dpi color. You also might wish to look at the pages for Beethoven symphonies to see how the page hierarchy is set up. Thanks, Carolus 14:40, 27 June 2009 (EDT) (IMSLP Copyright Admin)

Regarding the Traditional Chinese translation

Hi Notnd,

I got your message about the traditional Chinese translation. Unfortunately, there is a current limitation where multiple "dialects" of a language (simplified/traditional Chinese are considered "dialects" of Chinese) cannot be used (only one dialect can be used). The Simplified Chinese translation was created a long time ago, which is why it occupies the "Chinese" translation slot of IMSLP. However, as another Chinese person (from Shanghai), I would agree that Traditional Chinese should be considered the "common" language amongst Chinese people.

But, for technical reasons, I will not change or add the translation yet. IMSLP is currently in the middle of a massive upgrade and backend redesign, at the end of which multiple dialects should be accepted. Furthermore, Mediawiki has a built-in function that can automatically translate Simplified Chinese into Traditional Chinese and vice versa. I will look more into this, and maybe we do not need two versions of the Chinese translation after all.

But regardless, thanks for the work!

--Feldmahler 17:02, 27 June 2009 (EDT)

Tianquan Hu

This composer died in only 1997 and is therefore under copyright in Canada, China and elsewhere in the world. Do you have permission from the composer's heirs to post here? Please let us know as soon as possible. Thanks, Carolus 13:36, 3 July 2009 (EDT) (IMSLP Copyright Admin)

I am somewhat curious how China Medley would assert that this item is public domain in light of the fact that China's copyright law (like Canada's) has a life-plus-50 year term? The composer died in 1997, his work will not enter Canada's public domain until January 1, 2048. The work might be public domain in the USA - if it was first published without a copyright notice before 1989. Carolus 02:51, 4 July 2009 (EDT)

Hora Staccato

Dear Notnd. Jascha Heitez (d.1987) is not PD in Canada, or anywhere else, for that matter. Don't attempt to post his arrangements here. They will be deleted. Thanks, Carolus 02:13, 7 July 2009 (EDT) (IMSLP Copyright Admin)

Eulenburg logos

Hello Notnd, Watch out for Eulenburg logos in color. Schott (who now owns Eulenburg) complained about Eulenburg logos being present on scores here last year. So if you see a Sibley (or other) score that has a color reproduction of the Eulenburg logo, delete the cover and upload the rest of the score. Since Sibley scanned the Mozart piece you just uploaded, we'll let Schott send the nasty letters to them. Thanks, Carolus 23:10, 7 July 2009 (EDT) (IMSLP Copyright Admin)

DaXiong Jiang

Are you DaXiong Jiang? If not, what are the dates for DaXiong Jiang? Transcriptions and arrangements of public domain works like Rubinstein's Melody in F are not public domain if the transcriber or arranger is still living or died less than 50 years ago. We cannot post items that are under copyright here. The fact that something is available on another website does not mean the item is public domain. This is especially true of websites in countries like Russia or China, where copyright laws appear to be a theoretical concept only. We do allow non public domain items here as long as permission has been granted from the lawful copyright owner. We cannot permit arrangements and transcriptions of public domain works that are not also in the public domain without permission. You need to provide more information about items of this nature. Thanks, Carolus 15:05, 8 July 2009 (EDT) (IMSLP Copyright Admin)

I have scanned this score from a book published from MinJian Music Publishing which clearly states that there is no copyright for the book. It also says just make our (publisher's) name on the score, then you can share our music sores freely.If you have any questions, contact me. Thanks, Notnd

Thanks very much for your kind response, which is helpful. Here's the (potential) problem we get into here: As you know, the Melody in F was originally composed for piano. The item you posted appears to be a transcription for violin solo or violin and piano. There have been a large number of such transcriptions made over the years, many of which are public domain. However, there are others which are not public domain (like any made by Heifetz). We have no idea whose transcription this is. However, the publisher's statement you mention above is good enough to qualify for a C/C/C tag for now. You should be aware that I'll have to take this down if someone writes to us complaining that we are violating their copyright claim on a violin transcription simply because we have no idea of which transcription it is. In other words, the lack of information here makes it virtually impossible for us to defend our claim of the item being public domain. Carolus 15:26, 9 July 2009 (EDT)

Logos, trademarks, watermarks

Dear Notnd, The Violin I part for Dvorak's Symphony No.9 you uploaded had to be deleted because there is a watermark URL of a Chinese publisher on each page. Since URLs have been regarded by some courts as a form of trademark when embedded in this manner, we cannot allow this here. You can upload it as long as the watermark is removed. thanks, Carolus 20:33, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Werner Icking

The Werner Icking Music Archive (WIMA) has expressly forbidden their items (new typesets/editions) to be uploaded to IMSLP. The one exception to this are the works edited by Pierre Gouin, who has kindly granted permission for his work to appear here. Thanks, Carolus 06:43, 17 July 2009 (UTC) (IMSLP Copyright Admin)


Hi - thanks for all the cleanup work. IMSLP really needs people to do this kind of "mucking around" on-site to improve the general quality, and we currently only have about 5 people willing to do it - so welcome aboard.-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 13:59, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Chopin - Xiang-Feng Ho transcriptions

Hello, Is this your transcription? If not, do you have permission to post it here? Let us know - otherwise it will be deleted in 24 hours or less. Thanks, Carolus 05:13, 12 August 2009 (UTC) (IMSLP Copright Admin) The fact that this item is posted on a website in China does not mean it is public domain. We are therefore deleting this item as there is no evidence to indicate that 1) the arranger has been dead for more than 50 years; 2) this is a reprint of a much earlier arrangement which is public domain; 3) the arranger has released the work into the public domain. You are welcome to post again if you can provide better evidence than a website that this work is not under copyright. Thanks, Carolus 03:52, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Má Vlast

Hello Notdn: You reverted my edits to the Má Vlast (Smetana, Bedřich) page. I want to explain why I made those edits.

  • Year/Date of Composition=1872–1879 >> It's fair to say the symphonic cycle Má vlast was started in 1872 and completed in 1879 since the individual works were composed during the following dates (you also removed those dates):
1. Vyšehrad (1872–1874)
2. Vltava (1874)
3. Šarka (1875)
4. Z českých luhů a hájů (From Bohemian Woods and Fields; Par les Prés et les Bois de Bohême; Aus Böhmens Hain und Flur) (1875)
5. Tábor (1878)
6. Blaník (1879)
  • Alternative Title=My Country; Ma Patrie; Mein Vaterland >> Má Vlast is well known by these alternative titles in their respective countries.
  • The German title for Vltava is Die Moldau. I wasn't aware there was such a title as "The" Moldau, but upon googling it, I see that this amalgamate name seems to be rather common.

Best regards, Hrdinský 08:09, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Hello together, I've checked the year of composition in the encyclopedia MGG, see also Wikipedia or other sources. 1872-1879 is correct. Though most mention 1874–1879 the first tone poem Vyšehrad was actually started ca. 1872. For the sub-headings I would suggest to keep the English 'The Moldau' since it's the common language here and should be understandable for all users. Hobbypianist 10:59, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Villa-Lobos Ciranda

I had to delete your part and page because the earliest publication date was 1961. Beside that, your part appears to be a very recent typeset and most likely was edited. For these reasons we cannot host this piece for at least another couple years. Daphnis 13:05, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

The Maiden's Prayer

Hello Notnd, on the 1st page of the score you write "Licensed under CC Attribution Non-commercial Share ALike 3.0 and here it's just Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike 3.0. Which one is correct? Regards, Hobbypianist 18:48, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Swedish/Swiss composers

Hi Nontd. I'm just puzzled why you redirected the category for Swedish composers to Swiss composers? Erm, they are different countries you know :-) — P.davydov 17:03, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Oops! Sorry! Notnd 01:20, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

OK :-) Just to let you know, Feldmahler would rather we didn't add new nationality categories to the composers, and he's modified the composer template so we can do it a different way instead. See this discussion on the forumP.davydov 07:38, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

User composers-4

Hi. Since you are listed as a professional composer, may I see one of your compositions so I know about where to position myself as far as composing is concerned? Thanks. ClassicalComposers 04:17, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
P.S. I am from Hong Kong, too.

Hi ClassicalComposers, I'm not a great composer but, I will try to post it up here as soon as possible. I need to have it typeseted. It will take some time. Thank you for your intrest. Notnd 09:57, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Please send me a note when you have it uploaded. Thanks. ClassicalComposers 22:56, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Dear Notnd, I still haven't seen a new composer page under the category Chinese Composers. ClassicalComposers 04:21, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I've got loads of teaching to do for the last few weeks. Now I've got half of the score typeseted, it should be uploaded before Monday. Sorry. Notnd 11:35, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi. See my reply here. ClassicalComposers 15:36, 19 December 2009 (UTC)


Hi Notnd, are you absolutely sure it shouldn't stay as 'L. Frank'? I haven't checked any authority records yet, but the general philosophy in naming composers is to match the LC authorities. A brief look into the history of that category shows that Davydov, one of our site experts on standards, apparently approved of the original. Therefore, would you mind satisfying my curiosity as to exactly why you changed it? Thanks, KGill talk email 20:45, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Yellow River Piano Concerto

Dear Notnd, when you scan the Yellow River Piano Concerto, do not create a new page whatsoever. I have already created the work page under the composer Xian Xinghai. ClassicalComposers 00:54, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


Hi Nontd. I know that you're only trying to help, but could I ask you to stop tagging please? This is only something that project members are allowed to do, and some of your tags are wrong and will have to be corrected. Thank you — P.davydov 09:58, 9 January 2010 (UTC)


Hi Notnd,

some of the tags you are adding simply aren’t correct, either missing the work type (some of the pieces for piano solo, you’ve only tagged as “pf”; and others you’ve added an incorrect tag: none of the ragtimes are right, the correct tag listed here is rags. I’d gently suggest fixing these before attempting to add any others, and organise with P.davydov how to make a contribution. Regards, Philip Legge @ © talk 09:58, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

I see I’ve been beaten to it... PML

Yellow River

Are you scanning yet? :) ClassicalComposers 00:24, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Just a reminder, if you’re not scanning yet, some of the IMSLP clean-up squad might decide to obliterate the work page, as it has been there these several months lying fallow, and nature abhors a vacuum. Regards, Philip Legge @ © talk 03:08, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

The answer is: No. I can't borrow a scanner from APA, and my own scanner is broken :(. Sorry! Regards, --Notnd 10:44, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Rimsky-Korsakov: Flight of the Bumble-Bee piano arrangement

Dear Notnd, Another contributor here has pointed out that the item you posted, which lists yourself as the arranger, is basically a typeset of Rachmaninoff's piano setting, which is under copyright in the USA and the EU. Perhaps you meant to list yourself as editor and typesetter and one of us got confused as to the nature of your actual contribution. Unless I hear from you otherwise, I will list you as the editor and typesetter, crediting Rachmaninoff as the arranger. This will affect the copyright tagging - resulting in the infamous [TB] block due to the work's status in the USA. Thanks, Carolus 18:33, 15 May 2010 (UTC) (IMSLP Copyright Admin)

Guess I got a bit of confused that time. That IS Rachmanioff's arrangement, not mines. Sorry! --Notnd 13:44, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Community project - Xian Xinghai Lilypond Orchestral Parts

I have noticed that you use Lilypond, and you are interested in Xian Xinghai's work. Some of his works are already on IMSLP,_Xinghai

However without orchestral parts, it is very difficult to be performed by orchestras. Therefore I have just set up the project:

to retypeset the orchestral full score with Lilypond to produce orchestral parts PDF and reupload to IMSLP.

and you are cordially welcome to join us.

--Kcleung 05:55, 11 July 2010 (UTC)


I noticed with very high interesst, that you have uploaded the manuscript of Ysaÿe's 4th Sonata for Violin Solo. I think this is a great thing for interpretation researches. Do you have also acces to the manuscripts of the other five Sonatas? Especially I am highly interessted in the ones of the 2nd and 3rd Sonata (Thibaud and Enescu). -- Ephraim


erm- do you want the composer page deleted or just the work page and associated files deleted? I am guessing the composer page can hang around until a new work is uploaded (or if not- I'm not actually sure- it can be restored when a new work is uploaded anyway) Eric 08:34, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

thanks for clarifying, sorry though! your help cleaning up mistakes and generally improving the site is still appreciated and I see we work on some of the same composer and workpages. hope you will still be staying around as work and teaching allow you to. which is your composer page (feel free to mail me or something if need be)? can't seem to figure out which page it is... apologies again and best. Eric 07:13, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Edward Elgar - Salut d'Amour - Viola Part

Hey Notnd,

I wanted to play with some familly members the piece you've uploaded in 2009: Edward Elgar - Salut d'Amour Unfortunatly when trying to play the viola part, I noticed that all the note heads where slightly miss placed, but it's enough to totally confuse me/my brain. I often can't figure out if it should be on the line, above or underneath.

Now I know three years have passed, but asking doesn't hurt. Do you still have the file, that generated this sheet? Or can you give me the source?

Would highly appreciate it! Thanks! -- Cisum 23:12, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Sorry...I think I've deleted the source files. I think you coule refer back to the complete score (seems to be okay)for ammending the viola part. Thanks for spotting out this flaw! :) --Notnd 09:40, 3 December 2011 (UTC)