User talk:Feldmahler/archive16


Another Glitch

It looks like something bizarre is going on with the page for Mountain streams by Peter Bird. I don't know if he did something when he tried to add an mp3 link or if the page was strange to being with. At any rate, I thought you ought to have a look. Carolus 23:52, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

It's just a stray {{ that got in. --Feldmahler 00:02, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

For some reason, the Beethoven Triple Concerto page does not link to its equivalent at IMDBP. Did you see we're signed up for Web Services? Carolus 00:39, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

Yep, I saw that e-mail. I've also just uploaded some changes, including the mandatory Amazon phrase thing in the sidebar, will add the other Amazon stores later (have to figure out how to link first). I'll take a look at that page soon (probably will start a list on my user page so people could add broken pages there). --Feldmahler 14:08, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
Just took a look, seems like a very genuine bug; I do not know why it is not linking, but will find out. --Feldmahler 14:10, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

Here's another page behaving oddly: Le Nozze di Figaro, K.492. The vocal score does not render at all. Carolus 14:09, 15 July 2008 (EDT)

Both that and the Beethoven bug has been fixed. --Feldmahler 14:14, 15 July 2008 (EDT

Here's another page behaving strangely:

Also, the publication history on Danse Macabre Op.40 has vanished, which left a hanging bracket which caused the page to act oddly. (I closed the bracket and it looks OK now, except the publication history is gone.) Carolus 00:47, 23 July 2008 (EDT)

This is a major bug that I'm glad you found. I will be fixing it either later today or tomorrow at the latest. Basically, all pages with [[something|description]] in the comments section (or any section if it is not within another parser function like the file entries) will be truncated at the pipe '|' symbol if a new file is submitted to that page. I restored the publication history of that particular page from the page history. --Feldmahler 09:37, 23 July 2008 (EDT)
I created the Ariadne Musica page and got an IMDBP page where I couldn't log in because my password no longer matches. I got an error when I tried to email a password to myself, and I wasn't allowed to create a new account because my old one apparently exists already. That may have contributed to whatever you're seeing there now. Johann Caspar Ferdinand Fischer 01:33, 23 July 2008 (EDT)
Currently I would recommend simply registering another account if you lost your IMDBP password, as there is no e-mailer on the IMDBP server yet. You will certainly get your account back when I either install the mail program, or merge the IMSLP and IMDBP accounts. --Feldmahler 09:37, 23 July 2008 (EDT)

Page deletions

Hi Feldmahler, There is a page called "My F***ing Life". It seems very inappropriate and I wonder if you could take a look. Thanks, Rickmiller.

Hi Feldmahler, I was wondering how page deletions are supposed to work in the current system. On the one hand, when deleting e.g. an empty work page, it might make sense to keep the corresponding imdbp entry, unless there is reason to assume that the information is wrong; but on the other hand, this apparently generates a conflict when someone wants to recreate the page on imslp. See also the message on my talk page. How should we deal with that? --Leonard Vertighel 04:28, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

Hello Feldmahler. On this subject, would it be possible for you to delete the pages for
  • 6 Pieces, Op.19 (Tchaikovsky, Pyotr Ilyich)
  • 12 Pieces, Op.40 (Tchaikovsky, Pyotr Ilyich)
from the IMDBP site? They were 'orphaned' after their counterparts on IMSLP were deleted by Leonard. After recreating the pages on IMSLP, I find that I'm unable to create new works data pages because the old ones still exist on IMDBP, although the link between the two sites is broken. Thanks! P.davydov 14:08, 19 July 2008 (EDT)
Thanks for reporting this P.davydov! This is actually on my list of things to fix. Namely, I will be changing the IMDBP add work page so that it will accept overwrites, and perhaps even assignments (i.e. assigning the IMDBP page with the same name to the IMSLP page without needing to go through the add page process). This should be done soon, and I'll leave a note on your talk page when it is done :) --Feldmahler 14:19, 19 July 2008 (EDT)

Adding keys to work page data (IMDBP)

Hello Feldmahler. Just a thought, but would it be possible to include a section for "Key" in the new IMDBP templates for each composition? Sometimes that's the simplest way to distinguish between pieces with similar titles by the same composer (e.g. Tchaikovsky's three "Valse-Scherzos" !). P.davydov 16:55, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

Hi P.davydov! Thanks for the suggestion :) There will be extensive changes to the IMDBP structure, and it should be possible to have key in there. However, that may not come very soon. --Feldmahler 12:55, 14 July 2008 (EDT)

Adding info. to existing work pages

Feldmahler, for some reason I can't submit/create info. for Strauss' Sinfonia Domestica as it's telling me a work with that name already exists. How can this be fixed? Daphnis 19:01, 20 July 2008 (EDT)

This is on the top of my todo list. Will be fixed in a few days. --Feldmahler 19:15, 20 July 2008 (EDT)


Hi Edward -- so glad the site's back! I've been uploading some Massenet songs and had a question about alphabetization. I understand that placement is chosen automatically when articles are present, but with differences in languages some issues have come up. "Il pleuvait," for instance, in French means "It rained" -- the "Il" is not an article as it would be in Italian, but rather a pronoun and so the song would correctly be alphabetized under I. Is there a way to go in and change the categorization from where it is now in P? Thanks for your help! Massenetique 03:03, 23 July 2008 (EDT)

I have to look into this, but at the moment it is not possible to change the sorting type manually, unfortunately. But this will certainly be fixed in some way in the near future. Thanks for reporting this! :) --Feldmahler 00:31, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

Error page

I reached the file blocked error page,would you have any good ideas to download them,please point it out for me,thank you!

Have you read the file blocked page? I think it explains quite well why it is blocked and when the block will be lifted. If you have other questions about the page, do ask. --Feldmahler 09:34, 24 July 2008 (EDT)
P.S. Just a note that if you are wondering what the "technical reasons" are, they are on IMSLP's side and not your side, so the block is not something you can lift by any action on your part. --Feldmahler 09:55, 24 July 2008 (EDT)

Questions from a new user

Hello Feldsmahler

Since I I´am new at this excellent page I woul´d like to ask:

1. I the PD rules exactly the same for the retypesettings?

2. I the PD rules exactly the same when the ressetted sheet music is provided from a public place (In my case The Music Libraty of Sweden.

3. I have, since the these works by Albinoni are att the wishlist got hold of these publications. But I doubtful that they are PD (I live in Sweden, EU) in any way,and therefor suiteble for publication at IMSLP?:

a. Concerto a cinque Op. VII No. 5 Für Kenner und Liebhaber No. 4 (Fritz Kneusselin (I know he is born 1917-?)Edition Kneusselin Basel 1968

b. Concerto a cinque op. 9 No. 7 Für Kenner und Liebhaber No. 49 (Fritz Kneusselin (I know he is born 1917-?)Edition Kneusselin Basel 1973.

c. Concerto a cinque in fa op. 9 No. 10 Ricordi 1945 Remo Giazotto (He died in 1998).

Best regards

Daltorps 16:55, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

Hi Daltorps, and welcome to IMSLP! I think you might get more satisfactory answers to these questions if you ask them in the "Copyright" section of the forums. I do not do copyright reviewing myself, so it might be better to have a real copyright reviewer answer your questions :) --Feldmahler 16:24, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

Can't Download most files

Hi, when I've tried to download most scores, most just stop after loading the first page or sooner. Then, I tried to save the link as a file in my computer, and when the download finishes, a message comes up saying: "This file is damaged and could not be repaired". When I used IMSLP before it was shut down, I could download every file with no trouble. I currently have dial-up internet, do I need DSL or Cable before I can download these files? The files that I am having trouble with are orchestral scores, parts of orchestral scores, and most solo and duet piano scores. What should I do?

Thanks, Dja

Hi Dja, what browser are you using? If you are using IE, have you tried clearing the cache and trying again? Are you using a download manager? --Feldmahler 22:00, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

I'm currently using Mozilla Firefox (v. as browser. Yes, I am using a download manager, but the downloads always stop when only about 10% of the actual file is downloaded. --Dja 1:25, 28 July 2008 (PST)

I've heard stories about troubles with Firefox with a download manager; I do not know what the cause is. It, however, does seem that most people are able to download fine (or else I would surely know). Have you tried disabling the download manager? Technically speaking it is probably better to use a download manager with a dialup connection, but if that is causing troubles we can try downloading without. Also, can you resume the file from 10% in the download manager, when you were using it? --Feldmahler 14:35, 28 July 2008 (EDT)

I haven't tried to disable the download manager yet, do you know how to do that? No, I can't resume after the file after it's "done", my only options are "open", and "remove". Should I use a different browser like IE? Also, when I download any files from other sites, (like I don't have any problems. Dja 17:20, 28 July 2008 (PST)

Please send a copy of the file to my e-mail (see user page). Thanks. --Feldmahler 01:41, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

Are two time periods possible to program?

Hello again, Feldmahler. I was wondering if it is possible to program two time periods into a composer template. I have tried myself at two pages recently but failed. If possible, please tell me how. I want to become familiar with the mechanics of this site, and, when possible, make this site less biased as to where to draw the line between musical time periods, depending on the composer. Have a nice day. Marcus2 15:42, 26 July 2008 (EDT)

Technically this is trivial, but it may make things more complicated in the long run. Many composers indeed span time periods, but the time period designation on IMSLP is meant to be approximate and not accurate, and I would like to keep it simple at one time period for now (generally there will be one time period that musicologists agree on; if you don't know which, you can ask on the forums). This may change with the IMSLP/IMDBP reorganization in a few months, but very likely nothing major will be done before then. --Feldmahler 22:00, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

Webern's "Passacaglia" - piano reduction

Does excist piano reduction of Webern's "Passacaglia" and can you maybe upload?

Thank very much, Werther.
Please post a note about this in the Score Requests section of the forums, because I do not take requests myself (I'm too busy with other things). Sorry! --Feldmahler 22:00, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

Song collections

Hi Feldmahler -- Question: I'm in the process of uploading all eight volumes of songs by Massenet (160 in total) and was wondering if maybe it might be a good idea to put the files together and categorize them as collections (ie. Mélodies, Volume I) on the main composer page. As it is now I have uploaded about a third of them and there are 77 files on the page, most of which are individual song titles -- This seems a bit messy to me, especially since it is unlikely someone would be looking for an individual song title as very few are well-known (and many have the same name, like Berceuse or Serenade). Ideas? Just thinking of ways to make the site more user-friendly, etc. Thanks! Massenetique 17:10, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

This is perhaps the hardest question to answer of any question asked about IMSLP :) For example, the same question applies to Schubert. My opinion would be that if this is the only publication of Massenet's songs, or if all publications of Massenet's songs categorize them into books much the same way (i.e. same songs per book) as your publication does, I wouldn't have a problem with putting all songs in one volume on one page. Otherwise, you can open a forum thread about this, and I'm sure User:Aldona has valuable insights about this from her Schubert dilemma. I have a feeling that the solution to this also depends a great deal on how many publications of the songs there are. --Feldmahler 19:13, 3 August 2008 (EDT)
I understand the difficulty. I would wager to say that the great majority of these songs were never published in any other format. The Kalmus editions I'm working from are reprints of the original collections published by Hartmann and Heugel during Massenet's lifetime. Some of the songs (a relative few though, I imagine) certainly may appear in other editions, and indeed many are extracted from cycles that were published once a hundred years ago and have been reprinted by Recital Publications and Classical Vocal Reprints in recent years. Would it be a possibility to create a separate category for songs by a particular composer? For composers like Schubert, Schumann, Faure and Massenet who wrote a huge amount of songs it might be worth it. I noticed also that someone who uploaded a number of Liszt songs starts every title with "Song," followed by the title. This doesn't seem like a great solution, but at least it sets the songs apart from other works. Not easy, I agree ... let me know of any ideas. Massenetique 22:08, 3 August 2008 (EDT)
This will be one of the main features of IMSLP/IMDBP after redesign; you will be able to create sub-category pages for composers, or even just generally (i.e. like the x number of instrument list pages we already have). A single work page could then be linked from multiple categories.
At the moment I would be fine with either configuration you suggested, though if the work information is the same for every song in each volume, I would be inclined to put them on a single page, and split them into separate pages later on if need be. How many volumes have you already submitted? --Feldmahler 22:24, 3 August 2008 (EDT)
I just finished submitting the third volume of eight. Each volume contains the same publisher info, plate number, etc -- and actually each song is numbered on the score itself. How exactly would I go about splitting them up, etc? Massenetique 22:28, 3 August 2008 (EDT)
Oh that is something you don't have to worry about right now, though the splitting would have to be manual (i.e. more work than it is now) unless I find time to write a tool for that particular purpose (which would take a while). The reason I am inclined to say "submit by volume" is that 1) there is no significant other edition that would warrant splitting the songs, and 2) I don't want you to spend a lot of time on page creation since you already have them all scanned, and 3) the decision for volume vs. song is uncertain in the first place, meaning both have approximately equal merits, and hence I would prefer the simpler method since it is easier to manipulate later on should need dictate. --Feldmahler 22:39, 3 August 2008 (EDT)
So, for the songs I've already submitted, should I create new pages (ie. Mélodies: Volume 1) and then move the files onto the new page? I understand how to proceed with volumes 4-8 but am not sure about what I've already submitted. Thanks! Massenetique 22:51, 3 August 2008 (EDT)
And one more thing -- the work information is actually not the same for every song -- since they all have different librettists, composition dates and dates of first publication (as many were published as single songs prior to the collection publications) ... Maybe this is more trouble than it is worth but want to do the best thing for IMSLP :) Massenetique 22:53, 3 August 2008 (EDT)
Oh I thought you might just leave the first three volumes as is, but if you want to combine them, simply move the file entries to the new page would be fine. Regarding differing work information, that is somewhat more problematic. If there are few categories of differences (say, there are less than 5 librettists per volume), then you can simply put in the work information something like "Moliere (1-3, 6-7), Goethe (4-5, 8-10), ...", but this gets unwieldy when each have completely different librettists. Same goes for the other information.
If you think the differences are many enough, I would just use a single page for each song. If the two have the same name, you can put an excerpt of the edition numbering in the title (for example, "Serenade, Kal.IV/17", where Kal. is Kalmus, IV is the volume number (4), and 17 is the song numbering within the volume. I am assuming that the different volumes all number the songs within the volume starting with 1; otherwise you can simply have "Kal.17"). --Feldmahler 23:06, 3 August 2008 (EDT)
The work information may prove unwieldy as there are no less than 12 librettists per volume, as well as dedications and special info on many. Maybe the best thing to do is to keep submitting as I have been, with an individual page for each song. With the intersections I just created on the main page it will probably be clear enough to anyone who may be browsing, and when you make the format switch it will be that much clearer. Sorry to take your time with this, but thanks for the help! Massenetique 23:11, 3 August 2008 (EDT)
Also, I left you a message awhile back re: alphabetization -- It's up above on this page ... Any thoughts? Massenetique 23:14, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

Hi Feldmahler and Mssenetique, Here's one possibility: If the published volumes contain no more than 12-15 songs each, it might me most convenient to have a single workpage for each volume. You could also have separate workpages for the actual song cycles. For Massenet and other French composers, the original publishers frequently issued the songs in volume form - typiclly with a title like Melodies, Livre 1 or something similar - during the composer's lifetime or slightly thereafter. This is certainly true of Heugel, and (in Faure's case at least) Hamelle. This get a lot more problematic in cases like Schubert, where most the songs issued in his lifetime were singles. The trick, I suppose is to determine how the volumes were issued in the composer's lifetime or slightly afterwards - instead of using whatever configuration Kalmus may have happened to throw them together into. In many cases, Kalmus would have followed Heugel's grouping for the volumes they issued. Keep in mind also that Hartmann was absorbed by Heugel starting in 1891, so the Heugel collected volumes from about 1920 or so most likely contain all of the titles first issued by Hartmann. PS: I just did a search on OCLC for Melodies of Massenet issued by Heugel. By 1914, 2 years after his death, Heugel had at least 8 volumes available, in versions for high and low voice. It appears they were issued in 20 songs per volume. Carolus 23:29, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

That was my logic at first; having a page per volume is simpler than having a page per song. However at this point, instead of spending a lot of time discussing and researching the benefits of either (especially since, while the collection is big, it is not impossible to change the format of), I would prefer if a simple course of action is taken directly, especially since Massenetique has already submitted 3/8 of the collection. My reason for suggesting page per song right now is because:
  1. This would keep the submission format consistant, since 3/8 is already submitted this way.
  2. We can add pages later on which collect the current pages into "meta-pages" (like the composition lists), which would have relevant catalog information.
  3. Since there does not seem to be a popular cataloging method for these songs, putting them into volume pages might not make them easier to find at the moment. Plus, we can add list pages outside of the work pages, which would be much more flexible (and a lot like what IMSLP/IMDBP will end up being, or so is the plan).
  4. Massenetique mentioned that the work information differed quite a bit between songs; that would be an additional burden one-volume-per-page would have to handle.
  5. It saves the need to research the publication history until later on, when either we have more free time, or more information becomes available (perhaps even scans of the original edition?). That gives us more information to work with and make the right decisions. Hence, keeping the format flexible and simple should be the current goal, in my opinion.
I also expect that this problem should disappear once the new IMSLP/IMDBP design is finished :) --Feldmahler 00:24, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

Makes sense to me. I threw together a fast and dirty Edition page for the volumes as issued by Heugel, just so I won't have to look it up again! Carolus 00:35, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

Hi Carolus and Feldmahler -- Hartmann and Heugel did indeed publish 8 volumes of Massenet's songs between 1875 and 1914, each containing 20 songs. I was getting my publisher info from Demar Irvine's book "Massenet: A Chronicle of His Life and Times," but it only offers information on first publication, and taking a look at the edition page Carlous created, it seems more probable that the Kalmus editions are reprints of the later (post-1891) Heugel publications. I will continue to upload the songs individually and if publisher info needs to change, please feel free! Thanks, Massenetique 02:45, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

Uploading of works to be PD on Jan. 1st 2009

Feldmahler, would there be any harm in my uploading of parts of the Florent Schmitt catalogue to the site in preparation for the 1st of next year? Seeing as we can easily block access to these until the time is come, and as this would greatly reduce the amount of work on my part (as experienced in the Sibelius marathon at the first of this year) in just a couple short days. What do you say? Daphnis 20:39, 21 August 2008 (EDT)

I'll stick in my two-cents' worth and say that I see no harm at all in Daphnis' idea. We've already got a few Isidore Philipp editions hanging about for January, which is less than 5 months away. It will be nice to see the red 09 tags turn green with the files "let out of jail" on New Year's Day. Carolus 23:17, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
I'd also add as a bonus that having users see what will eventually be available as a nice collection on the site would be some much-needed advertisement and publicity. It could draw quite a bit of attention and stir-up some interest. Daphnis 00:27, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
I guess I'll give the green light too. Since the files are not distributed I don't think it is a problem for IMSLP. --Feldmahler 10:14, 24 August 2008 (EDT)
Would this logic also be granted to files to be PD in 2010? I have a number of transcriptions by Lucien Garban that I could also upload. Daphnis 15:40, 24 August 2008 (EDT)
You sure are an impatient one aren't you ;) I'll leave the decision up to Carolus. --Feldmahler 19:00, 26 August 2008 (EDT)
I think we probably should stick to uploading only a year ahead. No need to tweak folks who already might be unhappy. I think you should hold off on uploading any Garban until January. I should add that we might need to discourage such uploads from those w/o admin status also. For one thing, they might be placing themselves in danger of being the target of a lawsuit. Daphnis, I likewise recommend that you create a couple of additional identities and use them for uploading items that are obviously not PD in the USA. Again, there is some danger should we be faced with another threat of the type experienced last fall. While there's no harm in the "advance advertising", the fact that someone scanned an item that is still technically protected could be troublesome. Carolus 22:10, 26 August 2008 (EDT)


Just letting you know I have added some bugs at IMSLP:Site development. --Peter talk 05:17, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

Thanks! I'll try to go through them as fast as possible. --Feldmahler 10:14, 24 August 2008 (EDT)

What is the problem?

I´ve tried several times to reupload a Mozart-file, but nothing has happend. The last time a succeded after I had tried It about five times. Would it be easier to let someone take away that file and upload it again as a new file?. I´ve read that there is problems with surver space.

Best regards

--[[User: DALTORPS (Brian Cohn]] 16:10, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

Lets talk on the forums :) --Feldmahler 10:14, 24 August 2008 (EDT)

my return

I try to understand the process for page translation but it is very difficult. You made a lot of changements but i see a lot of contradictions ... I dont know if it will be possible for me to contribute. Where is Leonard Vertighel ? Coulon 01:06, 27 August 2008 (EDT)

Hi Coulon! I apologize for the difficulties with translations and the inconsistent information presented in the translation pages, which are relics of previous translation facilities. Unfortunately I am rather busy working on other aspects of IMSLP at the moment, and won't have the time yet to fix the broken translation process just yet. However, they will certainly be attended to as soon as some other urgent things are fixed, which I hope will be before the turn of the year. At present the translation facilities are all there; the problem is that no one has found the time to write out the documentation for them... --Feldmahler 19:00, 26 August 2008 (EDT)

Please delete file

Feldmahler, since I can't seem to be able to delete this file: via the mass image deleter (guess I'm not converting the file name correctly) I was hoping you could do since I'm about to post all new scans that are actually clear of this and the next piece contained within that PDF. Thanks. Daphnis 21:43, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

Audio and Data disk

Hello. What would it take for me to get all the sheet music on a data DVD and shipped to me?

In addition, would it be possible for users to submit an audio file along with the actual sheet music, much as does? This would help with recognizing the pieces and to hear what the piece sounds like.

Please email me at

"Urgent Request" text

Hi Feldmahler,

I'm back for good :) I've started uni again, and we don't have lessons until next Tuesday, which means loads of free time to update the Greek translation of the site and do anything else I can.

I've already translated the News section and fixed some stuff on the Main page and a few other pages, but I also think it would be very important to translate the "Urgent Request" text that appears on every page into Greek and the other languages (with "iflang", I presume) so that more people will have a chance of seeing it and helping you. If you want me to, I can send you the Greek translation so you can update it yourself, if it's a privilage issue.

And I would like to take this chance and ask a few questions to make sure I know how to continue. Firstly, our of the navigation/translation bars, which one is more desirable, the green one (IMSLP:Sitemap) or the gray one (Help:Page_creation)? Moreover, how do I translate the templates of work pages? For example, on this page (randomly chosen), altough the navigation menu on the left is in Greek, and bottom information too, the "Music Files", "Recordings" and "General Information" are not, and neither are their respective fields. I remember this used to work, so the translation must be somewhere. If it isn't, just say the word and I'll have them translated again on the spot :)

Furthermore, I'd like to point out the correct Greek pages for three of the links of the Greek left navigational menu:

The link that links to IMSLP:FAQ (Συνήθεις ερωτήσεις (FAQ)) should lead to IMSLP:Συνήθεις Ερωτήσεις
IMSLP:Sitemap (Χάρτης Ιστοσελίδας) should link to IMSLP:Χάρτης Ιστοσελίδας
and IMSLP:Site_support (Υποστήριξη ιστοχώρου) should link to IMSLP:Υποστήριξη Ιστοσελίδας

Also, should I translate the Browse_by_composer_time_period and Browse_by_genre pages using IFLANG, or should I create new pages in Greek for them, and then give the links to you so you can link to these pages in the menu?

Lastly, I would like to remind you about the MIT project (the issue with the link asking for a username and password) - please let me know if there is any news on that, because I really want to finish this up.

Oh, and one last thing: one the publishers' pages (e.g. Augener) there seems to be the Historical Publication Info template, but none of the options is highlighted. If that's correct, then it's fine, but maybe we should add the name of the publisher page open below the second option to show where is the user at the moment with respect to the rest of the Historical Publication Info page group?

Sorry for the big post, I know you're busy - take your time to reply, I'll be here :)

°jujimufu 12:39, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

P.S. Regarding your last message (1st of October 2007), I would very gladly help Leonard with the translation project, regarding answering technical questions etc. Furthermore, I have already started porting the old code to the mediawiki thing, but I am having problems because although in the code each field is on a seperate line, when I save the page it is all in one line. Any ideas?

Just reminding you about this post, now that you're around, so I can get some replies and start working on it :) jujimufu 06:37, 28 January 2009 (EST)

Username change request

Hi Feldmahler, I would like to change my username from Nct to Stephane.Magnenat, which is my real name. Could you do it please ? Thank you. --Nct 02:30, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

Voice as an instrument

Dear Feldmahler, there are many templates for instruments to show the level of playing-quality. As a singer, I want to say, that the voice is also a type of music to indicate. I would like to create new templates with "Bass (Voice)", "Baritone (Voice)", "Tenor (Voice)", "Countertenor (Voice)", "Contralto (Voice)", "Mezzo-Soprano (Voice)" and "Soprano (Voice)". What do you think about? Ahandrich 07:24, 27 September 2008 (EDT)

At the moment, I think, its a bit harder than I thought... Ahandrich 12:24, 13 October 2008 (EDT)


Hi, begining i want to congratulate this initiative on IMSLP, the music need a project to be free and complete and most accessible to all peoples, like wikipedia for knowledge. I not imagine which is most important, but music related, are many other things that can do for music and the portal will help so much. One of then is create besides scores, a interaction with wikipedia, information about music (music theoric, explanations about scores) to help beginners, ie, transform IMSLP in a portal of music in many ways (teaching, comparing, discuting). I'm say it because music today in sumary is many chords played, and musicians, not contribute to aggrandize it, music is like medieval era, specially here in Brazil, delayed and poor. It's a big potential to music exit prehistory and grow up. Regards Jcegobrain 08:13, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Rite of Spring

I was wondering if I could post my arrangement of Rite of Spring, for 8 Cellos. YuriyLcello 18:16, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

everytime PD-control

Dear Feldmahler. There are files only PD on certain continents e.g. prohibited in US or EU... But this comment is everytime written by a man. The time will make the documents free for US and EU-people, too. I think that a program is neccessary to monitor the current state of copyright, otherwise all the existing comments will never change without a reason. Ahandrich 10:29, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

Soler harpsichord sonatas

Hi Feld,

I notice the harpsichord sonatas and concertos by Antonio Soler are still in the stack of 1000-odd copyright review items, a year on from the post in the forums where you said you would be contacting the copyright owner. May I ask, what was the outcome of writing to Ray Izumi? (

I ask, just so we can start processing them more or less en bloc. To my knowledge, very few of the ~100+ sonatas were ever published, so that the first publication for many of them is likely to have been the urtext complete works publications by Rubio and Marvin [Samuel Rubio (1912-1986); Frederick Marvin (1926- )]. Each published their editions comparatively recently: Rubio in Spain from 1984-87, Marvin in the US from 1976-82. Presumably Izumi's editions are reliant on these publications (unless he has transcribed directly from MS), raising the spectre of copyright violation even in terms of Urtext editions, let alone 50pma or 70pma copyrights that may pertain to editors.

Regards, Philip
Philip Legge @ © Φ 01:23, 10 October 2008 (EDT)

Complaint regarding Jazz Fantasy on Mozart (K.331 Last Movement)‎

Hi Feldmahler,

thanks for the note; you will note however that I am thorough, and when I looked at Special:Contributions/Ragman it seemed to me fairly likely that he is either the composer or a close associate; a politely worded message was posted at User talk:Ragman, and a question posed (unanswered at present) over at the forums regarding the current protocol. I was prepared to mark the file !N in good faith and revert it to N if there was a lack of permission; in my experience composers (or their representatives) can be very prickly and easily offended if permission is removed, and you will be damned if you do, damned if you don't, so the two approaches are to tag !N first and deny later, or tag N first and permit later. Carl seems to like posting to the user's talk pages giving 24 hours notice of deletion, but then he has the ability to delete pages and image files; I prefer to give some benefit of doubt that a posting may be legitimate as I don't have the ability to delete. :) Whichever method is to be preferred, arguments should be thrashed out over on yonder forum, then published as policy at IMSLP:Copyright Reviewers as guidance to the CR team. At present the page references typesets but not cases for negotiating with composers, and as I've said, these are best handled diplomatically and politely.

Lastly, for my reference would you forward me a copy of the complaint to pml AT (Whoops, forgot signature) Regards, Philip Legge @ © Φ 21:36, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

I received an e-mail from the contributor – he is neither the composer nor an associate, and does not have permission. I'm marking it back to N/N/N, could you or one of the other sysops delete the file? I will be more careful... Regards, Philip Legge @ © Φ 08:57, 17 October 2008 (EDT)

Haydn Sonata Nr 17


Today Haydn's Piano Sonata Nr 17 is normally attributed to Johann Gottfried Schwan(e(n))berg(er). The Sonata is not in the Complete Edition edited by Christa Landon (and I think not in the Complete Works edited by the Haydn-Institute, but I'm not shure), a new edition under S.'s name was made by the publisher Friedrich Hofmeister (now Leipzig). I wrote a notice under "misc. notes" (perhaps this is not the best place, you can change it, or say to me how to change). I think, we should let the sonata at this place - some visitors may believe it to be by Haydn. But we should add the file in a new composer page. Sorry for the stupid question (I not very good in technical stuff): is it enough to copy the wiki-text under "edit this page" and paste it in another page?

Anyway, there are harsh ideological wars about the correct form of Schwan(e(n))berg(er)s name in the Schwan(e(n))berg(er)-Fan-Club (oh yeah, this exists!). We'll have to find a compromise!

Rarus 19:58, 9 November 2008 (EST)

Italian Wikipedia gives Johann Gottfried Schwanenberger, german Johann Gottfried Schwanberger. Strange. I've contact to a Wolfenbüttel-local-patriot sect, who insists on "Schwanenberger" (he was born there). But honestly, the "er" can be omitted. Rarus 20:12, 9 November 2008 (EST)

Lost page (Ropartz: Prélude, Marine et Chansons)

Feldmahler, here is/was the address for this composition: Maybe something with the ampersand is wreaking havoc with the formatting. Would you mind having a look? Thanks. And hope all is going well with you. Daphnis 11:46, 30 November 2008 (EST)

It's indeed the ampersand that is causing trouble. You can reach this page via this address:élude%2C_Marine_%26_Chansons_(Ropartz%2C_Guy)
and then move it to a title without ampersand, so that it can be reached via the normal links. --Leonard Vertighel 11:26, 2 December 2008 (EST)
It's not letting me move the page because of this. Daphnis 11:31, 2 December 2008 (EST)
Same trick might work:élude%2C_Marine_%26_Chansons_(Ropartz%2C_Guy)
--Leonard Vertighel 11:57, 2 December 2008 (EST)
Yes, indeed. Thanks! Daphnis 11:58, 2 December 2008 (EST)

New Portal Page

Just wanted to pop in and say how much I like the new portal page! It's great!Snailey Yell at me Email me 11:45, 7 December 2008 (EST)

That's good ;-) Now go thank Leonard for designing it hehe. --Feldmahler 12:03, 7 December 2008 (EST)
On an unrelated topic, how often does the main page refresh? There's always a delay for new news entries, featured scores, etc.Snailey Yell at me Email me 12:09, 7 December 2008 (EST)
The main page refreshes every 3 days. I used to have a script to force-refresh all the main pages every hour, but it got lost when my hard drive crashed, and I haven't written a new one yet. --Feldmahler 21:51, 10 December 2008 (EST)

Haydn Piano Sonata No. 4

Now that this is a featured score (The complete sonatas, that is), could you please find the time to upload No. 4, if you have it? It would be nice to complete the listSnailey Yell at me Email me 12:39, 9 December 2008 (EST)

Actually, I personally have almost no scores, so asking me might not be the most productive way... Sorry! --Feldmahler 21:51, 10 December 2008 (EST)
Score added. Daphnis 22:03, 10 December 2008 (EST)

My computor

Best Feldsmahler.

Even if I have some uploaded file to IMSLP, I have have problems to upload other stuff. I´ve have checked my PDF:s , wich are not large, and thay seem to be OK, with the right endings. I know some others that has had problems to upload. Can it be that my computor´s memorty is to small?

I hope you can give an answer since think this is otherwise an exellent site/project.

Best regards

DALTORPS (Brian Cohn) DALTORPS 14:32, 23 January 2009 (EST)